Loader on 882 ?

[efharg]

I am considering installing a FE loader on my 882.
I have noticed on some Kubota tractors, they have a small hydraulic pump bolted directly on the rear of the injection pump on the D600 engine.
This looks like the best solution for the 882, as long as there aren't any clearance issues with mounting the pump.
I was wondering if anyone else has ever tried it?

[J-Mech]

I looked up a couple different parts blow-outs, and I agree, that looks like a really good option. I don't know how you are with hydraulics, cause it will be a lot of work. Depending on if you want to use the rear end as the reservoir, or use a secondary one, will either make it harder or easier.

[Grampie]

Several years ago a neighbor bought a kubota sub compact with that setup on it. The tractor was pretty new at the time this happened, I had it in the neighbors yard, Just sitting there at idle when all of a sudden Oil started running out of the breather tube that come out the top of the valve cover! Turns out the little O-Ring in the front of the pump let go and pumped all the hydraulic fluid into the engine through the injector pump filling the crankcase to the top of the valve cover and out the breather! Nice lookin little pump? I think its the worst design setup they ever come up with! No Way would I ever install a setup like that! ON ANYTHING! And then to think about even hooking it up to the cub's hydro reserve? No Way! I know some people have had kubota's for years without any issues (GOOD FOR YOU) but this is what I had to deal with the one my neighbor had. I say Independent Pump and Tank.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by Grampie

I think its the worst design setup they ever come up with! No Way would I ever install a setup like that! ON ANYTHING!

Bill, IH ran that same setup on ALL of their tractors until the '06 series. Besides, the same thing can happen when the seal goes out on the injection pump... crankcase full of diesel fuel! It's not a bad design.... I personally like an internal hydraulic pump myself, but there are LOTS and LOTS of really well made tractors with a gear drive hydraulic pump mounted to the motor.

[Grampie]

Oh I understand Jonathan, I just put a loader on my 2284 with an independant tank & pump. When you have an issue you only have to deal with it and not two or three other things at the same time when only one thing screwed up. I'm not into simplifying somthing by complicating it.

[Oak]

Got any pics? I think I'm gonna drive mine off the rear output shaft and not use the pto and belt system. I'm like Bill, I don't think I would use the Hytran oil for a loader either. I have seen some nice looking units where they use the rear sump to pick up the oil but I think I will use a dedicated pump and tank. How much is the Bota pump? I think the Northern pumps are $150+ now.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by Grampie

I'm not into simplifying somthing by complicating it.

I am DEFINITELY with you on that!

[efharg]

My thoughts were to use the Kubota engine driven pump with a seperate tank and hydraulic system. I was also thinking about using the existing spool valves and levers on the dash to operate the loader, and just plumbing in a valve where I could switch back and forth between the loader and deck lift/front hydraulic ports.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by efharg

My thoughts were to use the Kubota engine driven pump with a seperate tank and hydraulic system. I was also thinking about using the existing spool valves and levers on the dash to operate the loader, and just plumbing in a valve where I could switch back and forth between the loader and deck lift/front hydraulic ports.

I'm going to go back to the question, how much do you know/understand about hydraulics? That spool valve in the dash isn't very big... make sure that it can handle the GPM of the pump you put on it. Also, the valve has NO internal relief valve, so you need to put one in the system.

[efharg]

I know a little bit about hydraulics, but I don't claim to know everything. I have however, spent the last 40 years working on all types of equipment for a living, so I have a pretty good understanding of how things work.