Reverse drive, blade cut out switch operation

Shaynejacks · #1 02-21-2024, 11:04 PM

Hi I’m new to the forum.
It’s great having all you guys out there with so much information.
I have a series 3000 3235 (2003) 14A692100 52”
It’s fantastic but the reverse gear cutting mode doesn’t work switching from main ignition position on then pressing the reverse button and switching to

reverse ignition position, the cutting deck drive shuts down when revers is attempted?
Any or all suggestions welcomed.
Thanks Shayne

Oak · #2 02-22-2024, 06:05 AM

Welcome to OCC.

I have a question for you. I have a 3235 but mine doesn't have the reverse button and I don't see any schematics that show that. Can you post a picture of that please?

Here is a link to the free wiring diagrams.

https://www.ccpartsnmore.com/cub-cad...ing-schematics

Billy-O · #3 02-22-2024, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oak

Welcome to OCC.

I have a question for you. I have a 3235 but mine doesn't have the reverse button and I don't see any schematics that show that. Can you post a picture of that please?

Here is a link to the free wiring diagrams.

https://www.ccpartsnmore.com/cub-cad...ing-schematics

The schematic for the 3235 (2002-2003) shows a reverse switch.

Oak · #4 02-23-2024, 06:26 AM

The 3000 series do have a reverse switch but that is to kill the PTO in reverse and turn on the back up lights. You then have to push the switch off and back on when you are in neutral or going forward to turn the pto back on. It is very annoying to have to do this every time you back up. I'm thinking someone added some type of bypass to the OP thread.

It wasn't until the GT3100 or GT3200 machines where you had the ability to mow in reverse with a switch on the dash.

Lonstar · #5 10-13-2024, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oak

The 3000 series do have a reverse switch but that is to kill the PTO in reverse and turn on the back up lights. You then have to push the switch off and back on when you are in neutral or going forward to turn the pto back on. It is very annoying to have to do this every time you back up. I'm thinking someone added some type of bypass to the OP thread.

It wasn't until the GT3100 or GT3200 machines where you had the ability to mow in reverse with a switch on the dash.

Reviving this thread to ask which thread you're referring to.

I have two 3000 series tractors. A 3206 for mowing and a 3235 for everything else. The 3235 doesn't, and will never, have a mower deck on it. I have a Sims cab and a snowblower I use on the 3235 in winter.

I want to add a small LED light bar on the back of the cab that lights the area behind me when backing up, and use the circuit for the reverse lights to turn the light on.

Many years ago I removed the spring tab that depresses the switch on the reverse pedal. I just put it back on with the assumption that I could jumper the switch so it'll apply power to the reverse circuit and the PTO will stay running.

After spending some time with a jumper wire, a meter and a circuit tester, it seems it's not that simple.

If someone could point in the right direction, I'd appreciate it.

dale c. · #6 10-14-2024, 09:06 AM

you need to put ignition in reverse mode then push the safety cut out button leave the key in that position .

Oak · #7 10-14-2024, 06:46 PM

Does your tractor have the reverse lights in the tail lights? If it does then you should be able to tap that circuit. If it doesn't, I think the N/O switch is there and you can just wire it to that. I added rear lights to a machine that didn't have tail lights and the switch was there.

Screenshot 2024-10-14 at 17-40-54 Electrical Schematics.pdf.jpg

Lonstar · #8 10-18-2024, 10:44 PM

Yes, it has the OEM tail lights with the tail & reverse lights in the same housing.
The reverse works as you describe in post #4. It's not a GT, so no switch on the dash to keep the PTO running in reverse.

To be clear, I want the reverse lights to turn on when I press the reverse pedal, but not shut off the PTO, I want the PTO to keep running.

Attached are the Kohler schematics from the service manual, and a pic of the switch on the reverse pedal. I thought I could put a jumper across D&B to keep the PTO on when pressing the reverse pedal, but that didn't work.....or I don't understand how to do it correctly.

No matter where I had the jumper wire, I couldn't get it to turn the reverse lights on and keep the PTO running.

Oak · #9 10-19-2024, 10:36 AM

We can't tell you how to jump out a safety switch because your lawyers will contact our lawyers.

Now, you can "test" that circuit with a meter.

With the key in the "run" position you should have 12v + on the red wires.

One white wire should have 12v + also. That is the wire that energizes the relay up in the fuse box. When that relay is energized the pto can run. When you press the reverse pedal it de-energizes the relay and disables the pto.

Lonstar · #10 10-28-2024, 12:06 AM

Thanks for letting me know how to test it correctly. I don't understand why I wasn't successful when I was probing the wires, I thought I tested every combination.
I've been busy with other things, but I'll test further when I get a chance.

I appreciate the help with testing the switch to be sure it's working as it should.