3 point

[hogfly]

Alright, I am tired of wondering. I have a 1863 and I would love to have a 3 point. I saw one at Extreme Motorworks, says it works off deck lift and you can use with deck locked up. I don't know how to lock deck up and can someone explain sleeve hitch vs. 3 point, which one is better? Do they do the same thing, same attachments pro/cons? I need help with this one. thanks all

[1811woody]

A 3 point is what its name implies the implements attach at 3 points. The sleeve hitch implements attach at one point. I'm not sure about the advantages one has over the other except the 3 point may be able to take more wear and tear. I believe the sleeve hitch implements are easier to come by. If you have a 3 point you can adapt to a sleeve hitch adapter easier then going from a sleeve hitch to a 3 point in case you wanted to borrow someone elses implement. On the smaller tractors such as ours the 3 point is a "cat 0" which uses a 5/8 pin. As you go up in size the pin size increases in diameter as do the size and weight of the implements. Those are some of the basics that I know I'm sure others will add to it.

[Nightow1]

You could just make your 3pt independent of your deck.

[Nightow1]

Rescue11 is doing the independent 3pt on his 1864 in my shop.

[Rescue11]

Originally Posted by hogfly

Alright, I am tired of wondering. I have a 1863 and I would love to have a 3 point. I saw one at Extreme Motorworks, says it works off deck lift and you can use with deck locked up. I don't know how to lock deck up and can someone explain sleeve hitch vs. 3 point, which one is better? Do they do the same thing, same attachments pro/cons? I need help with this one. thanks all

Yes it works off of the deck lift, to lock the deck in the highest position you would have to raise the mower deck all the way up, then rotate the deck adjustment screw knob on the back of the tractor. It's very time consuming and you need to remember how many turns you made to get your deck back to the previous setting.

Honestly, the cat 0 has alot more adjustability. The cat 0 also has a higher lift capacity and travel range than a cc 3pt.

I dont think that any of the cat 0 3pts available for the cub cadets are anywhere close to what they should be in both lift capacity and travel. Not to mention you cant use multiple attachments on both the front and back.

[hogfly]

Originally Posted by Rescue11

Yes it works off of the deck lift, to lock the deck in the highest position you would have to raise the mower deck all the way up, then rotate the deck adjustment screw knob on the back of the tractor. It's very time consuming and you need to remember how many turns you made to get your deck back to the previous setting.

Honestly, the cat 0 has alot more adjustability. The cat 0 also has a higher lift capacity and travel range than a cc 3pt.

I dont think that any of the cat 0 3pts available for the cub cadets are anywhere close to what they should be in both lift capacity and travel. Not to mention you cant use multiple attachments on both the front and back.

so to cut it short if i want a true 3 point keep my 1863 for mowing and snow blowing and save my money for a small compact smoker for the 3 point my old man has a nice yanmar 1500d with 3 point something like this for me instead of investing 500.00 in hitch alone is what your saying thanks to all

[PeterJ]

Originally Posted by hogfly

Alright, I am tired of wondering. I have a 1863 and I would love to have a 3 point. I saw one at Extreme Motorworks, says it works off deck lift and you can use with deck locked up. I don't know how to lock deck up and can someone explain sleeve hitch vs. 3 point, which one is better? Do they do the same thing, same attachments pro/cons? I need help with this one. thanks all

I'm no expert, so if I screw up here, anyone is welcome to straighten me out.

I just picked up my 1863 about a week and a half ago ($500) because it had a 3-pt on it. Deals like this are not easily found, but are out there. I don't plan to use the 3-pt until spring. I plan to build a grader/leveler to maintain my 1/4 mile gravel driveway plus circle drive and parking area. I do not plan to use a mower on this tractor. I have no experience yet with mine.

The 3-pt keeps the implement "square" with the back of the tractor. A sleeve hitch is like a two dimensional ball hitch. It lets the implement move left and right. Both will lift the implement.

The Cub Cadet Attachment Guide, that I got with the 1863, says the 3-pt hitch is, "Used for the rotary tiller, moldboard plow, disc haro or cultivator." The 190-389 Cub Cadet 3-pt is a cat "0" hitch. It works off the deck lift.

Cub made a Sleeve Hitch Adaptor, part number 190-386, that allows sleeve hitch implements to be attached to a 3-pt hitch.

I have a real nice copy of the Cub Cadet Attachment guide if you want me to scan some of the pages and email to you, just send my your email.

I hope this helps.

PeterJ

[twoton]

So here's a nice project that I would like to build (in my spare time, ha, ha!)

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...412#post189412

IHCC 3 point. Plenty of lifting capacity, weight and height. No cat 0.

[Rescue11]

Originally Posted by hogfly

so to cut it short if i want a true 3 point keep my 1863 for mowing and snow blowing and save my money for a small compact smoker for the 3 point my old man has a nice yanmar 1500d with 3 point something like this for me instead of investing 500.00 in hitch alone is what your saying thanks to all

Nahh not really, if you want a true 3 point, dont but the cookie cutter that is available. It way over priced for what it is. There is a way to have a 3pt on your gt and use it alternately to the mower deck. But you have to think outside the box. Check this out...

Scroll to the bottom. His 3pt is independent of the mower deck, it will lift a heavier load with more lift height withou having to make any adjustments. Oh btw, it uses the same hydraulic lever as the deck lift.

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...=31710&page=12

If your interested shoot me a p.m. we have something in the works that will evolve the 3point to what it really needs to be.

[Sam Mac]

Originally Posted by hogfly

so to cut it short if i want a true 3 point keep my 1863 for mowing and snow blowing and save my money for a small compact smoker for the 3 point my old man has a nice yanmar 1500d with 3 point something like this for me instead of investing 500.00 in hitch alone is what your saying thanks to all

Yep, that's what I did. It's Orange, 4 wheel drive, has a FEL and a Cat 1, 3 point with a 540 PTO.