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Old 05-23-2009, 12:16 AM
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Hello, my name is Greg. I am an IH addict:biggrin2.gif:
Seriously, after the 1st 800 Scout; I've latched on to Travelalls, pickups and such. Some of them adorn the yard, but are slowly being made roadworthy. Aside from old cars, trucks, or tractors; my day job is refrigeration which covers -80 freezers to large chillers. I like working on Liebert a/c's and computer room air conditioning.

I got my 1st Cub last Monday. It's a 70's model 1650 with a 16 Hp Kohler and hydrostatic drive. It came with a tiller and a 50" mower.

I have a few questions. The book shows the engine to be rubber iso mounted. Mine is solid mounted. I know these Kohlers shake, but the vibrations are a lot. Can this hurt anything?

How well do these mowers handle tall grass? I've got areas of 8" to a foot tall grass, and the mower so far has been less than stellar. The blades are sharp, the throttle is full on, and I creep very slow. Still, I get lots of skippers, no mowed grass on turns, and big gaps in the middle. The deck is up with what I figure about 4 to 6" of cut grass.

What's the right PTO/mower belt? The spec'd one from the tractor place is IH-490489-R2. On the belt checker it measures about 81". It's so long the idler pulleys will rub or barely touch the cross shaft in front of them, and the adjuster screw is out about 3 or more inches. I've put new idler pulleys on. I substituted a 6879 belt, it's a bit tight; but it's not too close to the front now.
It's my 1st rider as I was holding out for a Cub, but man this thing will rattle my fillings out.
The tiller has worked flawless.

Thanks, and this site looks way cool.

Greg
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Old 05-23-2009, 12:25 AM
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Glad you joined us. Someone will have answers for you I'M sure.
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Old 05-23-2009, 12:30 AM
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Thanks. I guess I shouldn't have been so "needy" in the intros.
I'll save future questions for the other forums.
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:13 AM
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Welcome. Yes this is a great site. There are many here who will be able to help you with your problem. I'm not one of them though, sorry.
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:01 AM
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Greg:

Welcome to our Forum...........

Good to see another Refrigeration Technician here......:biggrin2.gif:


The Cub Cadet 1650 has the K341 Kohler (16HP) in it. The K341 is a "shaker" as compared to other lower HP Kohlers. Thus, it would be to your advantage to get away from the aftermarket "solid motor mounts" and get back to the original Iso Mount system. This will reduce the bone jarring effects of that K341.
[As a side note....I have a 1450 and testing out my variation of the Iso Mount System. I am using the rubber grommets from a 5HP Copeland C Body Copelaweld compressor. Since the compressor is about the same weight as the K341, I am thinking these grommets should work just fine. AND for a whole lot less than the Cub Cadet kit.]

OK...we know the model of the tractor but you make NO mention of the model or size of your mower deck. This all effects the belt size.

Lastly, the 1650 is a true Garden Tractor, more than just a "rider".

Let us know on the mower deck size so we can help you out with that.

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Old 05-23-2009, 10:44 AM
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These ole eyes didn't catch that you have a 50" deck.....sorry.

Thanks Bill for catching that.....!!!!
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Welcome,
I along with Roland welcome another AC guy!!!!!
Glad to have you here,and i find nothing wrong with the needy intro:biggrin2.gif:
I dont know much about the wide frame but i do know about the copeland compressor!!!!.........Great idea Roland!!! Im into the older cubs narrow frames but i supose if i had a wide frame id be into them to!!!and I know knothing about the decks as none of mine have a deck yet....till I find one!
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testing out my variation of the Iso Mount System. I am using the rubber grommets from a 5HP Copeland C Body Copelaweld
Good technicians think alike! I was just wondering the same thing this morning about compressor mounts.

Other good news, the engine DOES have iso mounts. The PO(previous owner),didn't think there was any. They're hidden ain't they? I found them looking for a part I dropped when fixing the hydro-lift handle. Nothing appears to be sagging, but still a lot of vibes.

One observation, though I appreciate the ruggedness; the technology is still over 30 years old. Mower improvement and rider comfort have come a long way!
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I will never repeat such blasphemy again!!:biggrin2.gif:
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