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Old 05-20-2012, 06:45 PM
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Ok just got my 124 back together and now it's running 1000x better but now it's quit charging. Prior to taking it down it was charging fine. Today I grounded out the F terminal like the test says and nothing... So what changed all I did when I tore it down is pull the S/G off and put it on a shelf and I never unhooked the V/R I just pulled it back. Can anyone make sense of it?
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Old 05-20-2012, 06:46 PM
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Check your "grounds".....even on the V/R!
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Check your "grounds".....even on the V/R!
Ill recheck them all but I feel like their good all of them were "freshly" attached when I reinstalled everything. But it is definitely a possibility.
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:32 PM
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Checked grounds with no changes, now what?

Curiosity the three terminals on the right hand side all have wires going to them but the solitary terminal on the left doesn't have a wire attached to it, should there be? There never has been before when it was working...
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No, typically that 4th terminal is a 'L' load terminal used on other tractors or applications that wanted to run a load circuit for lights, lift motors etc. that would get direct current from the s/g rather than run through the charging circuit of the wiring harness where it would have to pass through the battery and ammeter before reaching the lighting circuit. You could certainly use the L terminal for lights or lifts on our Cubs, but it would take a fair amount of rewiring.

Did you repaint anything where a ground wire or strap would attach to or through? No load after briefly grounding the F terminal sounds like DOA s/g. How long was it on the shelf?
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No, typically that 4th terminal is a 'L' load terminal used on other tractors or applications that wanted to run a load circuit for lights, lift motors etc. that would get direct current from the s/g rather than run through the charging circuit of the wiring harness where it would have to pass through the battery and ammeter before reaching the lighting circuit. You could certainly use the L terminal for lights or lifts on our Cubs, but it would take a fair amount of rewiring.

Did you repaint anything where a ground wire or strap would attach to or through? No load after briefly grounding the F terminal sounds like DOA s/g. How long was it on the shelf?
No paint was added at all, the S/G was off for 3 weeks maybe? What makes them quit charging just before I tore it all down I replaced the brushes and turned the armature could it just need re polarizing?
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Ah....nothing was said about opening up the S/G and doing some work inside.

Sounds like something didn't go back together right. You should re-examine this area or take it to a qualified Elec Motor Repair Shop.
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Ah....nothing was said about opening up the S/G and doing some work inside.

Sounds like something didn't go back together right. You should re-examine this area or take it to a qualified Elec Motor Repair Shop.
Who said anything about it not working after I replaced the brushes? It was working fine up until I rebuilt the motor.
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No paint was added at all, the S/G was off for 3 weeks maybe? What makes them quit charging just before I tore it all down I replaced the brushes and turned the armature could it just need re polarizing?
You say it JUST QUIT charging before you tore it down---
That makes me think you had a problem before you did anything.
Usually if they start properly, they will charge,meaning the S/G is ok.
Did you have the engine running @ full rpm's when you temporarly grounded the Field terminal to check output?
If it were mine, I'd be checking wiring or substitute a known good regulator, to see if that is the problem.
Was the temp ground making a good contact?
Just some thoughts--
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Should have been a comma in there as in just before I tore the motor down to rebuild it I replaced the brushes and bushings in the S/G and up to the point I removed it from the motor during the rebuild it was working. Sometimes things get jumbled when transferring them from thoughts to text.
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