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Old 06-12-2017, 08:28 PM
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I bought a 1982 model 680 142 U off of CL this past winter. The seller stated that the PTO shut down after an hour of hard use. How bad could that be I thought to myself? lol He was right... it did. The tractor bogged down to nothing while going up a slight grade with the PTO engaged. It was throttled up 100% at the time. After it ran for 30min the motor just cut out. It could be restarted... then it would cut out again till it cooled.

I just spent 800 dollars at a local dealer for a new pto unit.

It does exactly the same thing now.

I wanted this beast so I could mow and make a few bucks to support all my other bad habits but my return on this investment is already at the breaking point.

There are threads out there with this issue .... but I never found any definitive resolutions.

My issue is this: If you guys can detail a reasonably cost effective repair then I will carry on. If not I really need to take the loss and make this thing go away. The engine starts and runs easily. It looks decent..

I will happily post any photos you guys require.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!

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$800? That's highway robbery.
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It could be restarted... then it would cut out again till it cooled.

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Rick, 800 was too much for a PTO. You could have got a used one for 50 or a new PTO for around 200. But it is too late for that so could you explain your phrase above a little better? I cannot get my tired brain to understand that that means. I think with all of us here we can help you.
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You came to the right place Rick. Sounds like you have a fuel issue or an ignition issue. What engine does your tractor have in it?
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$800?!?!?!??!?!?!? They saw you coming!!!
The PTO sells direct from CCC for $613.92. Here, check it out. Item #1, click "add to cart" and it will give you the price:
http://www.cubcadet.com/equipment/AR...0-A/0017900014



So, the PTO shuts off? Or the engine dies? If the engine dies, why the heck would you replace the PTO????
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Rick, 800 was too much for a PTO. You could have got a used one for 50 or a new PTO for around 200. But it is too late for that so could you explain your phrase above a little better? I cannot get my tired brain to understand that that means. I think with all of us here we can help you.
When the tractor has been working for 30 min or so, with the PTO engaged, it will suddenly stall. If I turn the PTO off it will restart. but only sluggishly. If I let the tractor cool it will restart with more vigor and I can continue mowing.

I hope that is more descriptive?
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You came to the right place Rick. Sounds like you have a fuel issue or an ignition issue. What engine does your tractor have in it?
It has a Kohler K301AQS this is the stock 12hp correct?
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$800?!?!?!??!?!?!? They saw you coming!!!
The PTO sells direct from CCC for $613.92. Here, check it out. Item #1, click "add to cart" and it will give you the price:
http://www.cubcadet.com/equipment/AR...0-A/0017900014



So, the PTO shuts off? Or the engine dies? If the engine dies, why the heck would you replace the PTO????
I thought the engine was bogging down under the load of a malfunctioning PTO. The PTO does not shut down.

So not only did I vastly overpay (the PTO was 600 with labor and a couple maint repairs) I probably left them with a perfectly good PTO to add to their inventory. I will be discussing this with them. Will there be any kind of resolution? Nope.
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How long will the engine run without the PTO being engaged (off)...???

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How long will the engine run without the PTO being engaged (off)...???
Pretty much indefinitly. Sometimes it has a really hard time starting tho. Its like its not getting enough spark... i get black smoke and kind of a fluttering, belching no idle situation till it sorts itself out. This doesnt happen all the time.
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