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gt383mag 02-13-2014 09:33 PM

Rear PTO - whats it worth?
 
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does this look complete it needs minor repairs what is a fair price looks like the person who removed it had to drill out a roll pin

J-Mech 02-13-2014 11:03 PM

Every now and again, a buyer gets lucky and finds one cheap...... but typical sale price is $400-$600 used (depending on application, completeness of parts, and condition) and $700 for NOS.

Yours is broken, missing parts and appears to have quite a bit of surface rust. Are the bearings all free?
I don't think it is worth near $400 in the shape it is in.... but, I'm usually a buyer, not a seller.

gt383mag 02-13-2014 11:20 PM

yes everything spins and moves freely

J-Mech 02-13-2014 11:30 PM

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cubcadet 02-14-2014 06:31 AM

I agree with Jonathan.

cjrolke 02-14-2014 08:04 AM

rear PTOs are unique and pricey

I have seen an entire rear sell from 250 to 600

I have an O with Rear Pto bought it cheap ($100)

DoubleO7 02-14-2014 08:19 AM

Correct me if wrong, but isn't the diff cover plate and the actual output shaft, support casting and bearing assembly common to Cub tractors?
The only thing unique to put it into a CC is the other shaft and engagement brackets and links.

If yes, the "common to Cub" parts can be had cheap.

J-Mech 02-14-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DoubleO7 (Post 243345)
Correct me if wrong, but isn't the diff cover plate and the actual output shaft, support casting and bearing assembly common to Cub tractors?
The only thing unique to put it into a CC is the other shaft and engagement brackets and links.

If yes, the "common to Cub" parts can be had cheap.


Yes, you are correct.....
The trans top shaft, and some of the linkage is specific to Cub Cadet. But the rear bearing flange off the F-Cub needs an area machined to accommodate the fill hole on the CC diff cover. Most of the linkage can be made. The real problem is the trans top shaft. It is pretty hard to find item. :angry:

cubs-n-bxrs 02-14-2014 12:16 PM

Other than the coolness factor I am not sure what they are good for. Not sure but I beleive they spin backwards requiring the use or a reveser to get them spinning in the correct direction to use PTO operated implements. :bigthink:

cjrolke 02-14-2014 12:27 PM

i have a belt pulley and 90 degree adapter for mine to run something belt driven

J-Mech 02-14-2014 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cubs-n-bxrs (Post 243366)
Other than the coolness factor I am not sure what they are good for. Not sure but I beleive they spin backwards requiring the use or a reveser to get them spinning in the correct direction to use PTO operated implements. :bigthink:

They do spin the opposite direction from all other tractors. If you have the ability to build attachments for them, they can be very useful. I just bought a rear PTO, and a pull type Bush Hog mower. I plan to make it run off the PTO. Plus, I have a post hole digger and a ditcher that I think I can adapt to run off of it.

cjrolke 02-14-2014 04:39 PM

this may help some

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1961-Cub-Cad...p2056016.l4276

I know it was a buy it now for a while at $600

the bad part is this was from a 3 digit original the rest has been parted out and on ebay

markmdz 03-12-2014 12:55 PM

only because this is one of the more recent posts about these rear PTO's, I've got to revisit it.

I'll admit it: I have a problem. ...There... I said it.

I'm up to 3 NF rear PTO's now, and while I'm proud to have them, I have yet to find any good information as to their use, other than the old belt-driven pieces.

Does anyone have any pics of the rear PTO in use or at least hooked up to an implement/attachment on their NF?

CADplans 03-12-2014 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by markmdz (Post 248359)
only because this is one of the more recent posts about these rear PTO's, I've got to revisit it.

I'll admit it: I have a problem. ...There... I said it.

I'm up to 3 NF rear PTO's now, and while I'm proud to have them, I have yet to find any good information as to their use, other than the old belt-driven pieces.

Does anyone have any pics of the rear PTO in use or at least hooked up to an implement/attachment on their NF?

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/.../cubbeacon.jpg

:bigthink:

Sorry, WF!! :bigeyes:

:biggrin2:

danfeste 03-12-2014 01:23 PM

The rear pto was used to run the ground saw attachment.

http://www.cubcadetman.com/content/i...ners&Itemid=61

Yosemite Sam 03-12-2014 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjrolke (Post 243407)
this may help some

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1961-Cub-Cad...p2056016.l4276

I know it was a buy it now for a while at $600

the bad part is this was from a 3 digit original the rest has been parted out and on ebay

Don't know if this guy (ebay seller) is a member here or not, I used to think he was alright (as an ebay seller) but he has clearly caught the same selling bug as some of the other goofballs on ebay, I would have to need/want something really bad before I would buy it from him. Sorry, that's just how I feel.

BTW he still has a rear pto listed for $600.00.

Someone here has a rear mounted sickle bar mower that runs off their rear pto.

markmdz 03-12-2014 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CADplans (Post 248365)
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/.../cubbeacon.jpg

:bigthink:

Sorry, WF!! :bigeyes:

:biggrin2:

yep, that's cool. Even if it is a WF

markmdz 03-12-2014 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danfeste (Post 248366)
The rear pto was used to run the ground saw attachment.

http://www.cubcadetman.com/content/i...ners&Itemid=61

One day, I'll be lucky enough to find one of those.

markmdz 03-12-2014 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam (Post 248368)
Don't know if this guy (ebay seller) is a member here or not, I used to think he was alright (as an ebay seller) but he has clearly caught the same selling bug as some of the other goofballs on ebay, I would have to need/want something really bad before I would buy it from him. Sorry, that's just how I feel.

BTW he still has a rear pto listed for $600.00.

Someone here has a rear mounted sickle bar mower that runs off their rear pto.

I'd love to see the rear mounted rear pto driven sickle.

Not that I need one, as I literally just snagged a haban sickle this past weekend, but I'd love to make use of the pto and really crank up the 'cool factor' beyond just having another useless option.

J-Mech 03-12-2014 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by danfeste (Post 248366)
The rear pto was used to run the ground saw attachment.

http://www.cubcadetman.com/content/i...ners&Itemid=61

Actually, it didn't use the PTO to run the trencher..... it used it to drive the tractor. Backwards, through the PTO with a hydraulic motor.

J-Mech 03-12-2014 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam (Post 248368)
Someone here has a rear mounted sickle bar mower that runs off their rear pto.

Mark, I don't think that one runs off a rear PTO. I'm pretty sure he used a tiller gearbox turned 90° so the output shaft faces the rear.

Is this the one you were thinking of? If it is, I think it's Merk's.
Attachment 48418


IMHO, if you don't have a rear PTO and don't want to spend the $$$ on one. You could do it like that. Benefit: the PTO would turn the "correct" direction.

Berwil 03-12-2014 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 248381)
Mark, I don't think that one runs off a rear PTO. I'm pretty sure he used a tiller gearbox turned 90° so the output shaft faces the rear.

Is this the one you were thinking of? If it is, I think it's Merk's.
Attachment 48418


IMHO, if you don't have a rear PTO and don't want to spend the $$$ on one. You could do it like that. Benefit: the PTO would turn the "correct" direction.

I thought about the tiller gear box thing to make a cat 0 snowblower attachment. Here in SE PA, a blade is enough 90% of the time, but there is always that one storm where you need a blower, plus it would be handy to use to clear the end of the drive, mailbox etc. and just plain cool. I think it would spin the right way? I thought about it for a few min and confused myself! HaHa. Then I can leave the blade on the front since it will be used more. Gotta make the 3 pt lift independent first...

Bill

Yosemite Sam 03-12-2014 09:34 PM

Oh crap! My mistake, sorry for the bad information.

Merk 03-12-2014 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 248381)
Mark, I don't think that one runs off a rear PTO. I'm pretty sure he used a tiller gearbox turned 90° so the output shaft faces the rear.

Is this the one you were thinking of? If it is, I think it's Merk's.
Attachment 48418


IMHO, if you don't have a rear PTO and don't want to spend the $$$ on one. You could do it like that. Benefit: the PTO would turn the "correct" direction.

That belongs to my Dad.
It does run off the tiller drive. I have used this set up and it is fun to run.

You could use a rear PTO to run the mower if your Cub Cadet has a rear PTO. One draw back is the rear PTO is not live......meaning the clutch has to be engage for the attachment to run. The tractor doesn't stop as quick when the rear PTO and attachment (rear mower) is engage.

markmdz 03-14-2014 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Merk (Post 248492)
That belongs to my Dad.
It does run off the tiller drive. I have used this set up and it is fun to run.

You could use a rear PTO to run the mower if your Cub Cadet has a rear PTO. One draw back is the rear PTO is not live......meaning the clutch has to be engage for the attachment to run. The tractor doesn't stop as quick when the rear PTO and attachment (rear mower) is engage.

Great info from everyone. Thanks guys.

That rear sickle is pretty cool looking for sure.

cnixon 03-15-2014 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam (Post 248368)
Don't know if this guy (ebay seller) is a member here or not, I used to think he was alright (as an ebay seller) but he has clearly caught the same selling bug as some of the other goofballs on ebay, I would have to need/want something really bad before I would buy it from him. Sorry, that's just how I feel.

BTW he still has a rear pto listed for $600.00.

Someone here has a rear mounted sickle bar mower that runs off their rear pto.

It's nice to see the sponsors of this forum bad mouthing other members. The ones that cry foul are the ones that don't want to ante up. I built that tractor from the ground up piece by piece starting with housing. So I believe I have the right to take it apart piece by piece.

BTW I paid over 600 for one of my rear pto's for the original. Just one of those things that I had to have at the time.

drglinski 03-16-2014 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Merk (Post 248492)
That belongs to my Dad.
It does run off the tiller drive. I have used this set up and it is fun to run.

You could use a rear PTO to run the mower if your Cub Cadet has a rear PTO. One draw back is the rear PTO is not live......meaning the clutch has to be engage for the attachment to run. The tractor doesn't stop as quick when the rear PTO and attachment (rear mower) is engage.

If it's like it's big brothers then a heavy enough moving rear impliment will continue to push the tractor forward, even with the clutch pushed in. Dad had to put a PTO slip clutch on his W-9 with his field mower. The PTO is not live in a W-9 so you'd have to clutch to engage pto and transmission, but when you'd go to stop/shut the pto off you'd shove in the clutch and the rotary mower spinning would continue to drive the tractor forward. The pto slip clutch eliminated that.


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