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rbigg 09-14-2014 05:18 PM

Throttle quadrant needs a fix
 
My 3205 throttle quadrant needs a fix. p/n 603-0586.

The throttle, when not on full throttle, comes back to idle. Choke is fine.

Does anyone know how to fix this quadrant?

J-Mech 09-14-2014 06:01 PM

Look in the manual and see if it says anything about it. My guess the throttle lever on the dash is worn out.

http://service.mtdproducts.com/Train.../770-10227.htm

rbigg 09-14-2014 08:12 PM

Agreed. Nothing in the manual.

I'm hoping someone has a fix for the throttle quadrant

J-Mech 09-14-2014 08:23 PM

I don't think that enough people here own that new of a machine that will be able to help you. Figure out whether the friction is in the throttle quadrant itself or if its in the assembly on the engine. If its riveted together you can usually take the assembly and pound the rivets together a little tighter with a hammer and a punch.

Oak 09-14-2014 08:52 PM

I need to check mine for you but I think J is correct. I'm thinking but not 100% sure the tension is in the throttle assembly on the carb and not the dash levers.

rbigg 09-14-2014 10:29 PM

Good points. I hadn't thought of it being on the cable end where the tension is. I'll definitely check that tomorrow.

If it's in the quadrant, I'll bite the bullet and pull mine apart and see what it takes to "fix" it.

rbigg 09-15-2014 08:28 PM

My throttle cable is enclosed in armour. That's all that holds it in place: clamps on the outside armour. That does not increase throttle cable pressure. Unless I'm not putting enough pressure on the armour to hold the throttle cable more securely.........

I'm not sure what gets the throttle control to slide back to idle. No springs I can find. I'm going to have to think a bit on this one.

It would seem if I can find a small spring and put on the throttle shaft, it might balance out.

Let me get back with you guys after a few days.

Calvins66Cub 09-15-2014 08:32 PM

Can you post some pictures?

rbigg 09-15-2014 08:54 PM

Sure. I'll get some pics.

Sam Mac 09-15-2014 09:05 PM

I've seen a little thing that fits over the cable with a bolt in it that bends the cable and in so doing puts some resistance to the cable sliding. Not sure what it's called, maybe someone else can help. :bigthink:

Oak 09-15-2014 11:37 PM

I can't get a good picture yet but there is a spring that pushes against the lever in the dash. If you look at yours does it have the spring on the shaft that it rotates on and pushes it towards the center? I think that will give it some tension but I dont know how much. I will try and get a good picture of it for you.

rbigg 09-16-2014 02:26 PM

Well, no pics. The camera didn't work.

I'm going to put a spring on the throttle shaft where the throttle control connects to it, and see if that helps or not.

J-Mech 09-16-2014 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbigg (Post 286951)
Well, no pics. The camera didn't work.

I'm going to put a spring on the throttle shaft where the throttle control connects to it, and see if that helps or not.

Make sure you attach it to the cable mounting point and not the governor or the carb.

Surely this problem isn't that difficult to repair. I think your asking for trouble adding springs........ But, it's your machine.

skeer 09-16-2014 03:12 PM

The quadrant on mine, each lever assembly.. like for throttle and for choke are wavy, sort of ribbed. That's the friction, at least in my case. If OP's are smooth, and there's no way to increase pressure on the housing, maybe taking the assembly apart and roughing up those sides, maybe sliding in a piece of sandpaper might add enough grip to keep it from slipping.

Sam Mac 09-16-2014 03:33 PM

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My guess is that your problem is with part #1. It probably has a bolt running through the center that can be tightened a bit to keep it from returning to idle on it's own but that is just a guess on my part as I have never worked on one.

skeer 09-16-2014 03:50 PM

I think OP might be the same guy who posted an identical question on MTF last week. I actually suggested looking for a center bolt like this and try to tighten it. IDK what happened to him but Im guessing that did not work.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cub-Cadet-Se...item4d2035e768

Zoom in and you can sort see this guys wavy-ness between the levers and the housing. These are quite worn though.

Sam Mac 09-16-2014 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skeer (Post 286962)
I think OP might be the same guy who posted an identical question on MTF last week. I actually suggested looking for a center bolt like this and try to tighten it. IDK what happened to him but Im guessing that did not work.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cub-Cadet-Se...item4d2035e768

Zoom in and you can sort see this guys wavy-ness between the levers and the housing. These are quite worn though.

That was a great link to show how these things work. Looks like no way to adjust it. Standard MTD design replace the whole deal. Gotta love it. I was hoping it had a bolt that could be tightened but no such luck. Poor design, and people question why I like the older stuff. I'll try to come up with a cheap and easy fix if for no other reason than to keep a few bucks in the owners pocket and out of MTD's.

J-Mech 09-16-2014 04:45 PM

MTD wants like $70 for that part. How about just a regular throttle and choke cable replacement? Or two throttle controls, both mounted in the original hole, one for the choke, one for the throttle. Those aftermarket ones are about $12-$15 each...... :Huh:

rwairforce 09-16-2014 05:46 PM

Can you drive that shaft out? If you can, add a couple washers on each side forcing more pressure on those tiny quality springs, maybe providing enough resistance to help.
Radical idea number 2: If it doesn't push through, cut off the ends, drill it out and use a bolt that you can tighten.


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