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Group_44 06-22-2015 12:37 PM

Sale on Gauges
 
While putting an order together for Summit Racing I came across a sale on the gauges that Sam Mac used on a couple of his project tractors. The kit with all the mounting hardware is only $12 on sale and since I already has a decent order I got free shipping too. At that price I ordered 3 sets.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sun-cp8090/overview/

:beerchug:

jaynjeep 06-22-2015 09:22 PM

Thanks for the lead!... I was about to order the exact set elsewhere for way more

SS5150 06-22-2015 10:53 PM

What size are the gauges? 2"?

Group_44 06-22-2015 11:28 PM

No the size of the gauges is 1 1/2" . There are 3 gauges mounted but they are removable from the panel they are in. The 1 1/2" size makes them an easy fit to the Cub dash tower. See Sam Mac's post on mounting the gauges in his Cyclops tractors. I plan to use the temp gauge to measure the oil temp on a 16hp Vanguard by removing one of the 1/4" drain plugs in the pan and using one of the included adaptors. The oil pressure will need a 1/8" tee if you plan to keep the warning light. The voltmeter just wire to the ignition switch. They also have a 2" set with white faces for the same price.

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...p8090_w_ml.jpg

zippy1 06-23-2015 01:04 AM

Sorry to jump in, but maybe you all can help me out seeing your into the gauge thing.
Would like to add a oil temp gauge to my 1872. Would I hook up to the oil warning light sending unit, or is, would this be something different all together?
Thanks for any assistance....:beerchug:

Sam Mac 06-23-2015 08:34 AM

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Those are mechanical gauges so you would need to put the temp sender into the bottom of the crank case. The Mag18 has a drain plug on the side at the bottom and the front under the PTO but you'll need to make sure the bulb on the sender doesn't come in contact with any rotating parts.

Group_44 06-23-2015 02:09 PM

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What Sam said. The most accurate reading will be from the oil in the sump. On the Mag18, the side plug would be my choice, it is protected from the drive belts and should be far enough away from getting in the way of any rotating internals (check first). Where that plug is on my 2082 I would have to lift the engine up to get the plug out and install the temperature bulb. On the Vanguard in the 1641 it looks like the plug near the oil filter should work.

mudpatrol1 06-23-2015 07:11 PM

just my 2 cents,ditch the olastic tubing for the oil pressure gauge and use copper. plastic tubing melts and cracks when it gets brittle over time which could cause major issues if your not always looking at the gauge

jaynjeep 06-23-2015 07:34 PM

I agree with mudpatrol... get rid of the plastic tubing... a couple of feet of copper tubing is cheap compared to a ruined engine.

Group_44 06-23-2015 08:34 PM

I couldn't agree more, I come from a racer mentality and would never use the plastic tubing that normally comes with the gauges. I prefer flexible braided stainless steel lines anytime a gauge line connects to the engine.

zippy1 06-24-2015 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Group_44 (Post 334436)
What Sam said. The most accurate reading will be from the oil in the sump. On the Mag18, the side plug would be my choice, it is protected from the drive belts and should be far enough away from getting in the way of any rotating internals (check first). Where that plug is on my 2082 I would have to lift the engine up to get the plug out and install the temperature bulb. On the Vanguard in the 1641 it looks like the plug near the oil filter should work.

Okay, just a standard oil temp gauge, or something specific? Will everything needed come in the kit?

Group_44 06-24-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by zippy1 (Post 334516)
Okay, just a standard oil temp gauge, or something specific? Will everything needed come in the kit?

It is just a standard mechanical, capillary tube temperature gauge, mechanical oil pressure gauge, voltmeter, mounting panel, 3 adaptors for the temp bulb, 2 oil pressure adaptor fittings, 1/8"plastic tubing. I wouldn't use the plastic tubing and I added an 1/8"npt tee in the oil pressure line to retain the idiot light(not in the kit). These are 1 1/2" diameter gauges, probably not too durable but they fit nice in the small available area. The kit does not have any wire to hook up the lights or volt meter. The gauges are removable from the panel and can be used individually if desired.

sbauerz28 06-24-2015 01:15 PM

You can get the copper tubing at any Autozone or Advance. They usually stock it next to the gauges.

I've had trouble with the nylon tubing leaking at the compression fittings.

jimbob200521 06-24-2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sbauerz28 (Post 334585)
You can get the copper tubing at any Autozone or Advance. They usually stock it next to the gauges.

I've had trouble with the nylon tubing leaking at the compression fittings.

Is there any alternative to the copper that's better than the plastic but not as "rigid" as the copper? I've got an oil pressure gauge I need to get around to installing one of these days but I'm not sure how I'd want to route the tubing :bigthink:

sbauerz28 06-24-2015 02:35 PM

The only other option there is as far as I know if you don't want nylon or copper is braided stainless steel line. See link below. For the price, I would just step up to an electronic gauge with a sensor.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/atm-3229

Group_44 06-24-2015 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbob200521 (Post 334589)
Is there any alternative to the copper that's better than the plastic but not as "rigid" as the copper? I've got an oil pressure gauge I need to get around to installing one of these days but I'm not sure how I'd want to route the tubing :bigthink:

It all depend on what the connection on the back of the gauge is, some, like the one in this kit will only accept the 1/8" nut and ferrule, most of the braided lines have NPT or AN ends. If your gauge has an NPT thread on the back then by all means go for the braided line.

Sam Mac 06-24-2015 08:49 PM

Just a FYI be careful with the oil press line connections they are fragile and don't fit all that well. So far no problems with the plastic line but the connections at the gauge suck.

jaynjeep 06-24-2015 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Group_44 (Post 334626)
It all depend on what the connection on the back of the gauge is, some, like the one in this kit will only accept the 1/8" nut and ferrule, most of the braided lines have NPT or AN ends. If your gauge has an NPT thread on the back then by all means go for the braided line.

The 1/8 copper is a lot more flexible than you think.. it is easy to form around tight bends and doesn't kink like you would think it might... all in all its very easy to work with

Oak 06-24-2015 10:47 PM

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I ordered a set of the 1 1/2" and 2" gauges yesterday and they showed up today.
I use refrigeration capillary tubing and then slide some 1/4" FR pneumatic tubing over the copper to protect it. So far it has worked well.

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zippy1 06-25-2015 12:00 AM

Thanks for the info guys..:beerchug:
Now, would the electronic gauge with sensor be as accurate? For me the instillation process would be much easier. Than trying to get the brass tubing all tucked away.
If there's not a BIG price difference, simple would be worth it, and no chance of oil leaks... your thoughts!


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