Super frame question
 

I have the opportunity to buy a super frame with the dual brake setup still on it, the guys not sure what model super its from but I'd say it's from a cyclops judging by the pic. What I want to know is if this frame will work on my 1811 and if not can I atleast use the dual brake setup? Thanks

I'm sure it'd work on it but I bet it'd be more secure if you towed it rather than set it on the tractor but then again I'm not sure how much work it'll be doing just sitting there :biggrin2: :beerchug:

We need a tumbleweed emoji cuz this thread is like a ghost town, I guess my question was to hard.:biggrin2:

Tim

You should be able to transfer most of the 1811 parts to the Super frame. Except for the drive shaft, front axle, steering and fenders. Trans linkage is also longer on a Super. Dash tower and hood should be a bolt on.

Thanks Sam.

I own neither machine, but I'll take a swing. Someone will correct me if I'm way off base.

I would think if you have external brakes on you 1811, you should be able to swap the brakes over. I'm sure you will need to do things like shorten the brakes linkages and drill a few holes.

Does the super frame have axles? Supers have taller front axles, so if you use your 1811 axle, you will have a "low rider". Using the 1811 rear axle and tires will level it out, but hamper the use of decks and such.

Bill

Tim

If you have pics post them and maybe I can give you more info.

Here's a link to the ad, its the shape of the pedals that make me think it's from a cyclops.https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/grd/5249133449.html

Why would the front axle not work and steering not work?

The only difference between the frames is the length, and fender pan height.. So any linkage parts will need to be longer. The frame is lengthened right at the dash tower, so your manual steering linkage should be the same.

Can you put the dual brakes on the 1811...... sure. But they aren't bolt on. The pedals won't fit like they do on an SGT because they hit the side panel. (That's where the SGT frame is longer). Also, because of lower mounting fender pan there is issues getting the linkage under the fenders not to interfere with the mower deck.

Grab the frame. It's worth having. Even if you tuck it in the corner.

Supers have a larger front axle and power steering.

olds45512, I guess the big question is, do you want to build a super or just have the dual brakes? IMHO it would be simpler to fit the dual brakes to the 1811, it will take some modifying, but I'm sure it could be done. Simply putting all the 1811 parts on the super frame would probably look funny without having the larger tires and super front axle.

But they don't have to have. The early SGT's had the same manual steering as the GT's.


He didn't say he wanted to build an SGT, just could he put the 1811 on the SGT frame. He would simply end up with a longer GT with a little taller fenders, which will work. :beerchug:


Only issue I see is that the steering shaft to the wheel would be a little short. The SGT's had a longer shaft to raise the wheel up because the tower was further away from the seat and the seat was a little higher. Just depends on how long your arms are I guess.:bigthink:

Well at this point the OP has not enlightened us as to what it is that he plans to build so until we know what the plan is we are just wasting our time. Need more info from the OP. Later gentlemen. :beerchug:

the plan if it would be to take everything off the 1811 frame and put it on the super frame, whats so different about the front axle compared to a super like a 982? i thought the axle was the same but it had taller tires.

No, the axles were different. Slightly different shape, and the SGT axle is heavier. (The spindles are different too.) But the front bolster is the same. Uses the same pivot bolt for the GT and SGT alike.


Or you could buy power steering and have that..... :bigthink: