My Auction Adventure
 

Well I went to my very first auction today. Found a cub cadet 122. Started looking at it closer and It was a complete tractor with attach mower deck. This thing look like it was ready to mow just add gas. Got it home and went over it and found that It has mower deck, creeper grear, spring assist, three point hitch, Paper copy of Operator's manual,All mower belts, front pto. Hood in very good shape, has 2 great condition reflectors, Even has the hole for the cig. lighter on console. All rims good ,Tires have some dry rot. steering linkage tight steering column very loose, steering wheel rotten. All electical wiring very good condition. Missing Battery and battery positive cable to battery, missing spark plug, and key, THAT'S It. The best part of this deal was the price before 10% buyers fee and 8% tax was get this $140.00 SWEET. I now have 3 CC 122 tractors all together it gives me all the options and parts i need to make 1 great tractor!!! I will still be able to put the other 2 back together and sell them off. Attach is a picture I will get more when i get a break in the weather.

Not bad for 140 nice looking tractor. I personally like the 122's and 123's.
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Nice find Rich! Hopefully you didn't have to drive to Pa for the auction...lol

Jeff (teet)

Jeff the best part of this is that it was only 15 min away. The trouble is that I believe all three tractors should be restored. I love the 122 I got from you Its in great shape but this one is all together. When the rain stops Iam going to put a battery and spark plug and gas to try to get it started will keep you posted. Allso I got that gas tank sealer you talked about from boswell for the CC100. Will let you know how it works.Rich

Good for you! It's nice to find a good deal close to home. I should be firing up the 682 sometime this coming week as well. I have the engine mounted, just need to make a new driveshaft and button up some odds and ends. You should be able to make a couple great 122's out of your collection. Let me know how that sealer works for you, it has saved my butt a few times.:biggrin2.gif:

Jeff (teet)

Nice 122, you have there. I'd like to find one someday. :beerchug:

Nice 122 fer100
Hope it starts right up for you :biggrin2.gif:

Put the battery spark plug in, and gas. engine tuns slowly wont catch. almost like not enough power. have charger on it will wait hour or so to see if it will start. Any sugestions?

Check your ground connections.

Ditto what Matt said, did you change the oil too? You never know what thick sludge was in there from the previous owner. How is the spark? Good luck with it, and let us know how you made out....

Jeff (teet)

charged battery and kept charger on while cranking spark good geting gas. when I put choke out spits out carb. My CC keys wont fit key switch but when I insert key or small screw driver in switch i can crank it. Question with a cc key switch does the key have to be all the way in?

+1 Change the oil, check for spark. That 122 is a good one! I'll bet the carb. is all dirty, make sure you go over that!

Been working on it all day. spark plug has good spark, points has spark, good compression, even took bowl off carb(Carter number II carb) to see if it was loaded with dirt but it was clean. tried different spark plugs but no luck cleaned all connections (unscrew and wire brush) to following voltage regulator, SG ,main ground, Battery ends. gas flowing great when trying to start getting gas. When I have main thottle (fast/slow switch) halfway and throttle pulled out to start (like manual says to do) once in while I get puff of white smoke and a squeak. My father in law says valve could be hanging up. anyone agree or disagree. Allso PO just change oil its nice and clean.
The only thing I can think of is changing out the points, condenser, coil, another new spark plug. ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS.

I'd say pull the head and check to make sure a valve isn't stuck open. I've had that happen with tractor that have sat for a period of time. Usually just push it back down and spray a little lube in the sleeve and your good to go.

How would it get good compression with a valve stuck open?

Before you pull anything apart, I would pour some gas down the carb, not as easy in your case, and turn it over.

I was about ready to pull the points but it started when I did this and found it was still a fuel problem..




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it's spitting out gas from the carb, doesn't that mean it has gas flowing? The more I look and play with this, I do believe it's a Carb problem. Ok guys be gentile. How hard is it to rebuild a Carb. I've look in the library under manuels for the 122 but it's very general. Any one know of a step by step written procedure. Can you get new parts or are these parts going to be used ones. Thanks in advance. I'am a green horn in this area.

Shoot, I just rebuilt a carb yesterday. I should have taken pictures...

Just get a carb kit and put in the new needle and seat and all the gaskets and you should be good to go.

went to local napa store. Got there Outdoor Power Equipment Service parts book. Show a kit for a Kohler and walbro Carb. How do you tell them apart? Mine says carter II or N cann't tell, carb still on engine. Also should I change the float

If it says Carter, it's not a Walbro. You need the Kohler kit. I would get a new float and just be done with it. That's one less thing to worry about. Sometimes they develop leaks.

Hmm, gas, good compression (What is the compression checking at anyway)& spark it should start. Might be a silly question but is your air breather grimed up & filthy? I have had old engines where they simply were not getting enough air.

A carb rebuild is not hard and a good investment on one that has been sitting. Yes, by all means I would do a new float.

It doesn't matter if you have spark, gas, and compression if they aren't happening at the right time. You haven't mentioned if you set the timing correctly or not, and this sounds like the problem. These are very hard to start if the timing is off.

LIke I said I'am new and green at this. I'am taking all the information everyone is giving me and trying to rule it out. Yes I've been reading the service manuals and am trying to get a timing light and locating the hole to veiw the timing. I had a 1966 pontiac tempest in the early 70's that jumped timing and I was thinking of it. I hope to get a timing light tomorrow and if I don't work to late (12Hr days getting old) i'll check it out. I found a new carb at napa for 120.00 and might just get it. I haven't work on anything like this in 30 Years so I really don't don't have everything I need. Getting it 1 piece at a time. Went today and got new plugs and a gapping tool to gap points and plugs.

Ok let's see if I got this right. in order to use timing light engine has to running. so to adjust timing while not running. turn flywheel till points are open to there max then adjust to .020. then should start? If Started run engine 1/3 throttle again adjust points till SP mark on fly wheel is centered in sight hole. Is this correct procedure?

The spark plug is making spark, correct? Well even with the carb. removed, you can get the tractor motor to pop-off by adding a few drops of gas in the spark plug hole or in the carb. hole on the motor. She should pop! Yea, those 1970 Tempest are cool! My friend in high school had one that I showed him was for sale.This was nothing short of a G.T.O! Rear spoiler, factory tac on hood, dual ram-air, 350 rocket, center shift consoel. Yup, there was a reason they had a handel up near the glovebox!

Do you have an ohmmeter? If so, you can use the static procedure in the manual. Find/clean the timing marks on the flywheel. Disconnect the coil from the points, and put one lead on the points, and ground the other side. Rotate the engine in the direction of normal rotation. When the points are closed, the resistance will be zero, and when they are open, it'll be infinity. When the points are just beginning to break (the meter fluctuates from zero to infinity) the "S" mark on the flywheel should be centered in the sight window. Some trial and error will be necessary. I'd gap them to 0.020" first and then do this. Believe it or not, I've had more than one tractor still fail to start after gapping the points to 0.020".

I would not buy the new carb...it's probably some non-adjustable POS that'll give you more trouble. These carbs are very simple to rebuild...all you need are a couple of wrenches, a spray can of carb cleaner, a piece of thin wire, and a 7/16" nut driver to remove the seat.

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If the timing isn't close to right, it will not fire. BTDT.

I just rebuilt the carb and couldn't get it to run. It had gas, even fludded the intake with gas but it wouldn't bump.

I was about ready to open a can of worms and replace the points/coil/ ect but I poured some FRESH gas in the carb and she started right up and ran for a bit.

After the rebuild I still had bad gas/water going in the carb and it wouldn't run. Cleaned out the tank and carb and that fixed it.

What is the condition of your tank, lines, filter? This thing has been sitting so a simple check is to pour some fresh gas in the hole with out filter or carb for that matter and see what happens.

Seems like your going to be making too many changes at once.

Now, this pre-existing problem could be more involved and why the tractor was layed up in the first place.

But check the gas!!




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WE did it guys, Got home tried it, No go.Sprayed carb clearner in carb reset points. put gas in spark plug hole tried it no go. Sprayed carb cleaner again this time all over inside and out put gas into hole again. Went inside for supper, Checked forum. Wrote down what to do next,went outside and she STARTED RIGHT UP. she cought and hicuped, blew some blue smoke for a few minutes and ran like a charm. It backfired threw muffer a couple of times an died but started right up each time. towards the end no problem at all.
Could not resist turn mower deck on cuts great. I love the way this thing cuts. It did throw the belt off once, put it back on no problem. I think it cuts better than my ariens hydro 934. THE WIFE EVEN AGREES. Ran tractor till gas ran out of the system. Put more in and ran tractor didn't backfire once. will go out later and try starting it again. WE did it Over the last year I've brought 5 Tractors and this is the first time I've been able to really use one.
This weekend I will change oil, clean her up, sharpen mower blades, and grease everthing. I think I will get parts to rebuild carb. THANKS AGAIN GUYS

WAY TO GO,FER 100!! :High5::WWP:

Sure is nice to get one going, nice thing about a CC is even if you have to completely rebuild the whole thing it still isn't as huge of a project as something like a classic car restoration or a house makeover... And they are USEFULL!

That is one of the reasons I got into this they are easy to work on and are not quite as expensive as a car or full size tractor. It's a great feeling when you get it running still. I'am still on a high. It's been a long time sense I've done something like this. By the way buddy where are you these days New York Or Texas or somewhere in between? If you get up my way stop in.

Way to go! It's awesome, bringing a cub back to life! :beerchug:

Good for you Rich! See, with a little persistence, and some trial and error you surprised yourself... Clean her up and post some more pics, it would be nice to get a good look at your new baby :biggrin2.gif:

Oh yeah...I got the 682 up and running today, and she runs and drives like a champ. I surprised myself too...the engine was from a 1250 that had been sitting for 5+ years...

Thanks again!

Jeff (teet)

Jeff that is great you got that 682 running good job. This weekend i'll clean her up and post some pictures you do the same. I might try and post utube video Rich

So why wasn't it running and what did you do to it??


Now I'm confused.. :bash2:


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I tend to believe that it was a dirty carb inside and out from not being used. But here is a list of things I did to get it going:
1. Put battery in it, 2. cleaned all electical ends, 3. gap old plug, 4. put new plug in when it didn't start, 5. gaped points about 3 different times, 6.took old gas out of tank and lines, 7. Cleaned and recleaned carb about 4 times (I just didn't want to take it off motor yet), 8. Finally at a last resort got a new can of carb cleaner and sprayed it clean and scrubbed inside and out. Then it finally started. I did all this over 2 days and I believe letting it soak was a key trick to freeing up what ever was wrong. And I just GOT LUCKY.

The 3pt and the creeper gear are worth dang near what you paid for it, so I'd say you did well.

So you were in the same boat as me.

I almost started replacing more ing parts when it was really still a gas problem..



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Sounds like the main jet and passeges were plugged.