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J-Mech 02-21-2017 01:02 PM

1050 went to narrow wheels
 
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I set up my 1050 for garden duty. I hate plowing with big fat tires. Sure, it floats a bit better, but the skinnies fit the dead furrow so much better and I think gives you better ability to steer within the furrow. I have 6-12's on the rear only because they were sitting and the tread works ok for plowing. I want to go to 8.50 lugs on the rear.

What do you think? Don't make fun of my rusty tractor, lol. I'll paint the rims before I mount up a set of tri-ribs.

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On a second note, why is it that the simplest of things take so dang long?!?!? Took me nearly all day to take those spindles off a QL I have. I just wanted to easily put the narrow tires on the front, and I don't care that the spindle is the 3/4" one. I'm not carrying weight on the front, so NBD to me. The king pins were stuck on the QL, and one on the 1050!! Oh well. It's done now! And the front end on the 1050 is lubed up good and working well. Even turns stop to stop!! I'm happy, but I'll be happier when the rims are painted and a new set of tri-ribs installed!

Rescue11 02-21-2017 08:20 PM

Why did you put your wheels on upside-down and backwards :bigthink:

I would personally have put the 23s on the front and then mid mounted the plow, that way your dead furrow would never interfere with the hydraulic thermostat you installed from your old 1923 VW bug.

But hey... whatever

J-Mech 02-21-2017 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rescue11 (Post 410028)
Why did you put your wheels on upside-down and backwards :bigthink:

I would personally have put the 23s on the front and then mid mounted the plow, that way your dead furrow would never interfere with the hydraulic thermostat you installed from your old 1923 VW bug.

But hey... whatever


I thought of that, but I don't think the ratio would be right with the front wheel assist I added if I put 23's on the front. I'd end up pulling the plow instead of pushing it. That never works. Evertime you push from behind while plowing deep, you end up with little plow pieces everywhere. :biggrin2:

MikeMasheris 02-22-2017 11:18 AM

You could have put bushings in the front rims for 1''I had a bunch of Brinly yellow wheels with 1'' bushings that would fit older rims.

J-Mech 02-22-2017 11:21 AM

Bushings or bearings Mike?

MikeMasheris 02-22-2017 11:42 AM

Bushings like the Originals had but 1'' bore

J-Mech 02-22-2017 11:45 AM

I'd rather have a bearing. Besides, the 3/4" spindles are NBD with only a K series single under the hood. I'll keep that in mind though!

johncub7172 02-22-2017 06:52 PM

Not bad! Truthfully I think the three quarter inch front spindles would carry about as much of a load the one inch spindles would using implements. I like seeing the land plough set ups! One day I'll dig in to the action!

Rescue11 02-22-2017 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by johncub7172 (Post 410117)
Not bad! Truthfully I think the three quarter inch front spindles would carry about as much of a load the one inch spindles would using implements. I like seeing the land plough set ups! One day I'll dig in to the action!

Id like to see a on-land hitch setup. Think it would be cool and more fun to operate

J-Mech 02-22-2017 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rescue11 (Post 410146)
Id like to see a on-land hitch setup. Think it would be cool and more fun to operate

I've never ran a land hitch plow, but I don't think I'd like them. Semi-mounted is the way to go IMO. Then again, that's all I've ever ran. Looks like it would be too easy to get off coarse with a land hitch. Plus, with semi-mounted, the plow pulls down on the tractor adding traction. I could pull a semi-mounted 6 bottom out of the ground, turn around and put it back down, and make it look like it was done with a single plow. All the plows going in one after another instead of all at once. I love plowing. But..... no one does it very often anymore, so I just enjoy my single bottom on my Cub. :biggrin2:

zippy1 02-22-2017 11:08 PM

Looks like it'll work, and that's the main thing.:beerchug:
I've got some rims/wheels that look just about the same.
What tri-ribs you getting Jon? :bigthink:

J-Mech 02-22-2017 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by zippy1 (Post 410161)
What tri-ribs you getting Jon? :bigthink:

Probably whatever is on sale on ebay. Likely a set of Deestones. I'm cheap, and it seems there are only a few companies who make the narrow tri-ribs. So, I'll just buy whoever has them cheapest. :biggrin2: I'll spend better money on the rears. :beerchug:

sir_lancealot 02-22-2017 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 410151)
..... no one does it very often anymore, so I just enjoy my single bottom on my Cub. :biggrin2:

This guy is using a single bottom plow too. His tractor is bigger though.:bigthink:
https://youtu.be/o9Ucwg04W_c

J-Mech 02-23-2017 12:23 AM

That's cool! But we don't have enough topsoil in Crawford County to do that. It would just roll big chunks of clay up, then nothing would grow! :bigeyes:

Rescue11 02-23-2017 07:50 PM

Not a pretty red tractor but these guys are going a fuzz over 6' deep. The steiger was going just under 3'. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lIN2R1iksog

Went to no-till when I was like 4. I wouldn't know how to set a plow if you held me at gun point. It does look fun tho!

Rescue11 04-13-2017 09:50 PM

Whatdid you do for tires? 23s?

J-Mech 10-15-2017 08:09 PM

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So, coming back to this thread. Finally got around to purchasing a set of tri-ribs for the front. Took the rusty rims off, blasted and painted them. Removed the bearings fully expecting to replace them all, but to my surprise, only one was bad. I was going to purchase a set of nice bearings from ebay, but since one was all I needed, a stop to the local Rural King and I bought a Stens bearing. Doesn't look like it is made as well as the old ones, but for $7 and I had it right then, I'll deal with it. Anywho..... I'm happy with them. Amazing how much better it looks without rusty rims on the front. I though the tractor suddenly looked like crap when I went to the narrow tires, but I wasn't painting them until I got new tires to mount to them.

Sorry for crappy pic of them mounted. I wasn't digging the tractor out just for a pic. :biggrin2::BlahBlah:

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On the rear, I had switched to the 6.50's because the 10.50's are just too wide for a 8" plow. The 6.50's work fine for plowing, but for tilling and planting they are just too narrow, as they sink in too deep with planting, and on the tiller running over the plowed ground, they make the ride too rough. Plus, they are shorter and I could get high centered while making the finishing pass where you have to straddle the remaining dirt with the double dead furrow. I mentioned in the first post that I wanted to go to the 8.50 lugs... well... I finally got a couple sets of 8.50's with decent tread rounded up. Put them on for now, but hoping before spring plowing that I can get a set of lugs, mount them and paint the rear rims. (Honestly, I am hoping to go all through this tractor this winter. Winter is always hard on me financially, so we'll see.) I am trying to decide on what I want for the lugs anyway, as I do plan to dual this tractor eventually, and I want the duals matching. I really want the 23 deg Firestones, but I don't want to buy 4 of them because $500 worth of tires on a GT just seems like a lot as I can get 4 brand new BFG's for my truck for just over $600. Don't know why they have to be so much more expensive than a True Power other than it's just because they say Firestone on them. Anyway, I put one dual on with two 6.50 dual adapters stacked to see how it looked. I like it, but I think it's just a little far apart. I want to get the stance right at 60" for the project I have in mind, and as it is in the pics it would be right at 65". I think I'm going to shoot for 2"-2.5" between the tires. We'll see.

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Also, my old Cub Cadet wheel weights may have bit the dust. Had these forever, and they get switched around from machine to machine, depending on what I need. The plastic was cracked when I got them, and when I removed them this time, they may not go back on. Apparently, they are filled with metal scraps and mortar or some kind of *chit*. Once the plastic cracked, the chit started falling out. Guess it's time to shop for some steel weights. Should probably put up an ad.

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zippy1 10-15-2017 10:30 PM

Tri ribs look good on the fresh painted wheels. BUT those weights have seen better days. I gave a set of those plastic covered ones away with my 149.
Just a bugger for me getting them on, so let someone else fight with them.
Duals? You just going to run them on the landside?

J-Mech 10-15-2017 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by zippy1 (Post 435318)
Tri ribs look good on the fresh painted wheels. BUT those weights have seen better days. I gave a set of those plastic covered ones away with my 149.
Just a bugger for me getting them on, so let someone else fight with them.
Duals? You just going to run them on the landside?


Thanks Todd! :beerchug:

No, I don't want to run one on the land side. I don't like tilling the garden after plowing. I have to till it twice at least to level it up, and that leaves the soil over worked. Powder nearly. I want to build a small pull type disk. While I am well aware of the machines ability to pull, I think I can build a 5' disk and it will pull it. I'm not going to sock it in 4" deep like a large disk would go. I found a guy on WFM that built one and pulls it with a 140H3. He said it pulls it just fine. Anyway... duals for traction, but mostly to make it ride better. It SUCKS running on plowed ground with a Cub. Small tires and lots of uneven dirt beats you to death. I have a Brinly tandem disk, but it doesn't work for crap. Angle of the gangs is all wrong, can't level it on a sleeve hitch, blades are too small.... just sucks. Probably end up pulling it with something else with a bigger motor.... but I'd like to try it out on the 1050. If all goes well, I'll put that new 12hp in it this winter that I have ready to assemble, but never have.

This is just a pic I found, but it's what I want to build. Copy of an IH disk:

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Rescue11 10-16-2017 08:39 PM

Ahhah! Sounds like good fun! Glad you actually have a project... Lol.... How pray tell do you plan to lift said disc?

J-Mech 10-16-2017 10:30 PM

Well....... that is still up for debate. I'm more worried about actually getting it built than I am about how to lift it..... that's easy. I've been wanting to build one for 2 years now and haven't done it yet. Hydraulic is what I will build it to be, but that can easily be switched out with an electric lift if i don't get a pump on the gear drive tractor.

Sam Mac 10-17-2017 06:33 AM

Looks like your having fun! :beerchug:

Dirty Steve 10-17-2017 12:22 PM

Cool skinnies!! :beerchug:

Sam Mac 10-17-2017 04:59 PM

Nice Rubbers Bud!:beerchug:

Oak 10-17-2017 09:47 PM

Looks good Jon. What are they and where did you get them?

Can't wait for the disc build. :popcorn:

J-Mech 10-17-2017 10:32 PM

Thanks Sam, Steve and Todd. :beerchug:


Todd,
I got the tires off Ebay. Here is the sellers page. Interestingly enough, no items for sale right now. Shipping was free, and I paid $64 for the pair with tubes. Best price I found. :beerchug:
The tires themselves are Deestone 4.00-8 tires. I see they offer them in both 3.50-8 and 4.00-8.... I wanted the wider tire so I went with the 4.00, but honestly I don't know whether there is any difference or not. Price was different. The 3.50's are quite a bit cheaper.... but I've seen other tractors with the tri-ribs and I thought they looked funny and extra narrow. Maybe different tire brand, or maybe they were the smaller tire.... either way, the 4.00's were quite a bit taller than the ones that were on it, so it raised it back up to a more regular height. They were at least 2" taller overall, but when plowing in a dead furrow, any height addition is good. Yet another reason to go to 8.50's on the rear. Taller.

The disk project will be fun.... if I get to it. I wasn't going to bring it up, but Zippy wanted to know what the plan was with duals. I'm just not happy with the Brinly tandem disk, and I don't want to hunt for a 3pt Brinly. Besides, from what I see they have the same issue. Not large enough blades, wrong blade dish, wrong gang angle. Jerry Collier is the only one I've seen who rebladed his disk with the 12" blades that I want to use. Really improved it.... but it's still just barely as wide as the tractor, and looks like the gang angle could still be improved. Besides.... if you don't count the time I'll have in making it, I'm certain that the steel won't cost any more than the price of a Brinly cat 0 disk and new blades for it. Here's to hoping I get to it! :beerchug:

johncub7172 10-18-2017 01:33 AM

Good deal on the tires, no kidding! I seen a guy across the street just recently made a disk set up like that, but I think its a little better, IDK? You might be right going with the 2.5" spacer. I sold Jerry my 2" spacers a while ago, which he uses quite a bit.

Now, since I don't plow yet, I had a tandem disk gang that would really mince up my garden, so well my tiller never tangled in any bean plants or anything! Darn I miss my IH 42" rear mount tiller!!!!!

J-Mech 10-22-2017 10:23 PM

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Got the 1050 out today and used it. LOVE the tri-ribs. Made steering in plowed ground about 10X better!

I can't believe I plowed with no weights and with the "turf" tires on it. That tread pattern they used to use really is pretty good. But I will still switch back to AG's and load them. Heavier is better. :biggrin2:


Glad I got it done too. Started raining here this evening. Supposed to rain all day tomorrow. Probably my last chance to have gotten it plowed.


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Rescue11 10-22-2017 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 435851)
I can't believe I plowed with no weights and with the "turf" tires on it.

That's cuz your in Illinois, come to Nebraska. We have places around here you would need two Cubs to pull that plow.

J-Mech 10-22-2017 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rescue11 (Post 435864)
That's cuz your in Illinois, come to Nebraska. We have places around here you would need two Cubs to pull that plow.

Clay? Or just hard dense soil?


It helps that I plow it every year. Keeps it loose. :biggrin2:

Rescue11 10-22-2017 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 435866)
Clay? Or just hard dense soil?


It helps that I plow it every year. Keeps it loose. :biggrin2:

Well I mean the soil is pretty tight around here. We do have lots of clay. in fact Humboldt had a very famous Brickyard. It was essentially located on the North End of the old Cemetery. In fact a lot of graves we have dug on the north side of the cemetery have multiple colors of clay. Goes from red to Yellow to Green in about 6 ft

J-Mech 10-22-2017 11:31 PM

This county is nothing but clay. We do have topsoil here, but it's only about 1'-18" deep. After that it starts getting hard. I've seen it so dry in the summer that even a backhoe had issues digging 3' deep. Had to use long teeth and do a lot of "crumming". Buddy of mine was just trying to dig a hole for a light pole. Had to go 4' deep. Took him a week. Kept digging a bit, then filling the hole up with water and letting it sit until the next day. Post hole digger wouldn't touch it unless it sat for a while with water. :bigeyes:


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