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Kestrel 07-14-2017 06:43 AM

LT2 NR92 drive problem
 
It's the hydrostatic version. I'm not sure if this model number is a UK variation only, but I have a drive problem.

After the tractor has been in park, even if only for a couple of minutes, when I disengage the brake and press the peddle to go forwards, I can feel slight juddering and hear the belt spin, but it don't move. Same applies to reverse also. If I pump the pedal either forwards or reverse, it does start moving after 5 seconds or so.

I think it could either be a stuck brake pad or perhaps a slack belt, however once it's moving, I have no issues with speed.

That tractor was bought brand new from a registered cub cadet dealership last month. I would take it back to the dealer for them to take a look, but it will cost me the best part of £50 to do this due to living on an island and needing to use a ferry. If I can, I would rather try and fix it myself and save my money.

Would this void my warranty? I have worked on lawn tractors before, but never a hydrostatic version. Before I start stripping all the guards off the cutting deck, can anybody advise on where exactly I should be looking on this machine please? Is it much different to a transmatic lawn tractor underneath?

R Bedell 07-14-2017 08:50 AM

First, welcome to OCC.....:Welcome2:

It would appear that the LT2 is an export model.

For our members, here is the LT2.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IXvdv7KJAw

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when I disengage the brake and press the peddle to go forwards, I can feel slight juddering and hear the belt spin, but it don't move. Same applies to reverse also. If I pump the pedal either forwards or reverse, it does start moving after 5 seconds or so.
:bigthink:

From the sound of things, I think you are right. I would venture to say something needs lubricating, or some adjustment needs to be made.

CubDieselFan 07-14-2017 11:13 AM

How much did the mower cost? I might ask the dealer could they send someone out to adjust it.

Kestrel 07-14-2017 12:51 PM

Thanks for the welcome.

Mower cost £2200. Dealer won't send somebody out. Because it came with 3 year warranty, I asked them when I bought it and they said I would have to return it to them for any repairs. If it is something I could remedy myself, I'd rather save my money if possible.

R Bedell
So do you think it's most likely the brake sticking or is it the belt too loose? If I do the work myself, will I void my warranty?

R Bedell 07-14-2017 02:26 PM

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So do you think it's most likely the brake sticking or is it the belt too loose?
I tried pulling up a Parts Diagram at the Cub Cadet site here in the States. It stated no such model found. So, I can only venture and educated guess. It "sounds" like the brake is hanging up, perhaps not allowing the belt to travel freely, hence the noise from the belt.

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If I do the work myself, will I void my warranty?
I do not know the laws in Scotland, but here in the States, if a company finds out that and "unauthorized" repair was done, they may go as far as voiding the warranty, depending on the situation and extent of repairs.

Kestrel 07-14-2017 03:51 PM

Thank you for getting back to me.
I will have a look at the brakes this weekend and see if that is the problem. If I just need to add a bit of grease or tighten a nut, I will probably get away with doing it myself. But if that doesn't help, I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet and take it back because I don't want to invalidate a 3 year warranty on a brand new mower.
I have had a look around on cub cadet sites and it is advised to check and adjust/tighten nuts periodically if they come loose from vibration. I can't see how this repair would be much different. I don't understand why a machine this new would have loosened its nuts though, unless they weren't tight enough to begin with. It's been running less than 15 hours in total.

R Bedell 07-14-2017 04:14 PM

Anything is possible, but I am guessing more along the lines of a Linkage Rod that is out of adjustment, or needs lubrication.

R Bedell 07-14-2017 04:21 PM

I was on a European Site and they are asking for a 11 digit model number. What is your Model Number as seen on the Chassis Tag..???

Kestrel 07-14-2017 05:34 PM

I don't know, I'll have a look tomorrow and let you know if that's okay?

R Bedell 07-14-2017 07:01 PM

No problem.

Kestrel 07-15-2017 06:49 AM

Good morning Mr Bedell.
Had a look and my number is 13I271DE603. If you could point me in the direction of some parts diagrams, that would be a fantastic help.

R Bedell 07-15-2017 07:01 AM

OK....I'll be looking.

Would I be correct in assuming that you have the Owner/Operator Manual...???

Kestrel 07-15-2017 07:06 AM

Ah, there's a thought. I never thought of that. Haven't looked at that the all. Will dig it out and have a nosey to see if there's anything useful

R Bedell 07-15-2017 07:15 AM

I have found that and downloaded it.

Kestrel 07-15-2017 07:31 AM

Just had a read of mine and it doesn't have any info other than the safety use of the machine, how often to change oil etc and tire pressure. i thought that given the number of books and their thickness, surely it will have a lot of info. Got my hopes up, but it is all repeated in 27 languages!

Randy Littrell 07-15-2017 08:13 AM

Do you have someone to help you at home? As in, let someone get on the tractor and set the brake and then release it while you are looking at the linkage? You don't have to have it running, just get a light and watch the operation of it. This really help me figure out things.



Randy

Kestrel 07-15-2017 08:27 AM

Not today, but my son can do that for me tomorrow. Have tried looking myself already, but I need arms like a gorilla to operate it and see underneath at the same time.
I've had another tinker this morning and when I disengage the parking lever, it doesn't lift up all the way very easily. I have to force it up higher and this allows the tractor to move. So I believe it is something to do with the linkage not being correctly tightened/lubricated or both.

Kestrel 07-15-2017 08:53 AM

Tomorrow, I will remove the guards from around the cutting deck pulleys and get a proper look underneath at all the arms and nuts. If I take pictures, are there people on here who could identify parts for me if I get stuck? I should be OK, just not very confident and like the idea of somebody holding my hand if I can't do it. If I could find a parts diagram, I would be fine. But neither Google, yahoo or Bing are coming up with anything remotely like what I am looking for

R Bedell 07-15-2017 08:54 AM

Cub Cadet has an excellent Parts Lookup site here in the States. I punched in your numbers but it comes up as "no such model".

I have done a "Europe Cub Cadet Parts Lookup" search but haven't found anything...yet.

From what I have found, seems your tractor was made in Germany. Also....it would "appear" that MTD made the same tractor under the Toro brand name as... "Optima LN165H"

Kestrel 07-15-2017 11:19 AM

Just took the guards off the cutting deck and the first thing I noticed was a spring sitting on top of the deck, broken. One of the ends has completely sheared off. Second thing, this machine has a lever which enables neutral gear by pulling a metal rod out which is connected to the drive shaft. This however does not actually engage neutral in any position. The tractor is unable to free wheel no matter what position it is in.

Given that there is definitely two faults here (though I am not sure if they are actually connected) I am going to have to take it to the dealer for repair. I am far from impressed with this tractor. It's less than a month old, cost me over £2k and has less than 15 hours running time and already has a break. I will be calling the dealer first thing Monday with a view to taking it over next Friday.

But I would like to thank you all for your help.

Kestrel 07-15-2017 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 427616)
Cub Cadet has an excellent Parts Lookup site here in the States. I punched in your numbers but it comes up as "no such model".

I have done a "Europe Cub Cadet Parts Lookup" search but haven't found anything...yet.

From what I have found, seems your tractor was made in Germany. Also....it would "appear" that MTD made the same tractor under the Toro brand name as... "Optima LN165H"

Thank you for that. I have found a parts diagram at https://www.motoruf.com/n/partslists.html?id=50350102 which has helped me a lot. Much appreciated.


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