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Originally Posted by Hand_108

Been sitting back thinking hard about this "drama". You all know what? YOU ARE TO BLAME!!! I am not defending the banned individual one bit, but take a look at yourselves. The only reason the "drama" took place was because your chest is all pumped out and your playing keyboard commando. There would be NO "drama" if you kept your mouth shut or did not post at all (to that thread). There are many many many good members here. Some of them, their choice of words or how they word things, is to blame and makes them look bad. All you had to do was read the post, then, not respond. But some of you, your heads are so swelled, your mouth/fingers/brains do not work together. I do not know how many times I have written a post, reread it before posting, deleated it and moved on. The information on this site is to valuable not to be able to ask questions at times, so I usually keep my mouth shut. This time I cannot. I am ashamed and discusted to be a member of this site with some of you. Yes I know everyones personality is different but common, use some common sense. The person that was at the "root of the drama" was supposedly "16". You all let a 16 year old "ruffle your feathers"? You are no better. The questions, ideas, suggestions may have been "dumb" in your eyes, but for them, it was an idea, question, suggestion. You do not have to respond, but you do. Then when the person retaliates you cut them down more. When you could keep your trap shut and move on. But you do not do so. Then all of a sudden it is "drama". Boohoo. Waaaa. "I want my cake and eat it too. I am an administrator of this site, im a senior member of this site. I do this, I know that". I could care less what any of you think of ME. You are not my Dad/Mom, Husband/Wife, Brother/Sister, child, Aunt/Uncle etc. And personally, I do not care what they think of me either. I personally think any of you that posted anything negative in the threads of the "banned" needs a 90 suspension. You are the root. Sit back and reflect on yourself for a couple months. Think about how YOU want to be treated. Figure out how to "self edit" yourself. Learn how to pass over a post and not comment. Maybe there will not be "drama". You bring it on yourself. Then the "good'ole boy system" comes into effect. Not even going there. Most of you know what I mean.
Yes, I have spent an hour or more writing this. Self editing. Rewriting things to be more polite. Yes, I could pass over this thread, but I finally feel some of you (insert many words of profanity that you wish) need to be called out. Your comments, attitudes, and posts (degrating to thread starter) need to STOP!!!! Shut your mouth and move on!!!

Time for me to take a break from this site for awhile too. I get pleny bent and hot reading some of the comments at times.

Take this as you will. Like I said, I can care less what YOU think. But 1 person cannot cause drama. It takes a group to cause drama. A group like YOU.

Take care.
Joh Hand

PS. Ban me too if you do not like what I say.

Originally Posted by CADplans

My beliefs on this sight are kinda along the lines of Hand_108,,,,

If there is something I do not like, I click the "Red X" in the upper right corner,, (yes, I use a PC, not an Apple,, )

If it had not been for Justin, I would have not converted my Super to diesel;



(Actually, I just wanted to post a pic of my new lawn mower,,, , so nobody really knows how I feel)

Originally Posted by Alvy

I hope this thread doesn't get closed like the rest of these just yet. I have to agree with a lot of what Hand is saying. I feel there are wrongs committed on both sides of the fence here.

It's more than the teenagers here. I don't know Justin but Nick and I have spoken several times. I've told him about his actions and how he gets carried away at times with posting nonsense and blowing up members and letting him know why and how certain people react to him in certain ways. He's starting to realize this and is learning from his mistakes I believe. Does he deserve another chance sometime? Yes. I think we all do

There needs to be some self realization though. I and others have voiced our concerns when Jon has ruffled our feathers and have private messaged him at his request as well about these concerns. Others have PMd myself and other members and haven't wanted to speak up in fear of being retaliated against for one reason or another. There is a reaction that he evokes because of his personality and I'm not afraid to admit that and I hope he can understand that is happening. All he wants to do is get the correct information out there, and I respect that but he needs to realize his way of doing that is harsh a lot of times and people on the other end of that get pissed. The OP is stating this also as it happened recently. Let me make this clear that I don't have a problem with him, and I've told him that, but at the same time I think he wonders why there are people that do have a problem with him. I'm not a member of any ars kissing club and I see the frustration here but yes, the drama can be avoided and not prevoked by simply not posting to something. I get there has to be some policing but it's getting ridiculous at times. And actually I do care about not getting banned but I also don't like to see longer term members leaving or not posting anymore because of this.

Originally Posted by spudder

I don't post or reply to many threads, but feel the need to respond here. I among others have felt similar to Hand_108. I think the venting is a real positive and has been needed for quite a while.
In a nutshell, Hand's post pretty well says it all. My thoughts are, think before you respond.
Type, edit, think, edit, send and smile. If that doesn't feel right, just don't post a reply!
This is the best forum out there for our joint interest: Cub Cadets.
We all can co-exist and make this place better!
I'm an old fart(older than Sam) That is all!
Thanks, Tim

I agree with every thread here. I had typed up a long post, but these guys said it so well, I went with them.

My question is, why does the other half in this equation get away with everything without repercussion? Free range to banter and banter until they break, then laugh as they get banned? Pretty sad with all that knowledge, has no people skills whatsoever...................