Need some opinions/parts help

jimbob200521 · #1 04-30-2014, 07:39 PM

Here goes: I've gotten to the point with my Cubs where I want to simplify a bit. I know my modest "collection" of 3 Cubs doesn't seem to need simplifying but with the time, money, and space lift has granted me, it makes sense. It all comes down to I can take care of 2 tractors more properly and thoroughly than I can 3. Right now I've got 2 1811's (one with about 800 hours, the other just shy of 700) and a 1450 with unknown hours. The 1450 has hydraulics and a rear lift with a tiller and neither of the 1811's have a rear lift, but one has the rear plate (for the bagger, I can post a pic if anyone wants).

What I would like to do is sell the 1450 and use the money to put a sleeve hitch on one of the 1811's. The only thing stopping me from doing that is making the tiller I have work with it. I talked a bit to J-Mech and he said with that rear plate, it would be an easy conversion to make the tiller fit the 1811, just mount the gearbox to the plate and install a sleeve hitch. My question is this: what would I need to order to get a sleeve hitch installed on my 1811?

I really only want to sell the 1450 for as much as I'd need to get the sleeve hitch on the 1811. I don't believe they still sell the upper casting but that's where you guys come in. So, what do I need? Is is still available online or would I need to wait for the parts to become available on eBay or something like that? Thanks guys!

_DX3_ · #2 04-30-2014, 08:34 PM

xtrememotorworks.com has the lift bar and the lower 2 point, http://xtrememotorworks.com/Parts%20...rts%20List.htm
myself or someone else here will have the upper rock shaft and frankenstein bolts, and it sounds like you will have the lower part covered with the plate. You will also need a mule drive dedicated to the tiller and change out the gearbox pulley with one that will use a 5/8" belt. I do believe that is what the PTO pulley on the 1811 requires.

Here is a pic of my former 782 with the parts needed.

J-Mech · #3 05-01-2014, 01:46 AM

Ryan, you know you can use the sleeve hitch from the 1450 right? You just need a different lift bar. Extrememotorworks sells them for $46. You won't need the lower bracket because it's built into the tiller gear box mounting. Soooooo all you need is the NLA bracket for the 3pt adapter (which I can make) a longer belt, ($70) wider pulley on bottom (e-bay I got one for $45) change the idlers on the mule drive. ($15 a piece at most). Only price I'm not sure of is how much to make the adapter. Last one I made, I want to change, but I used steel I already had.

I'm going to edit this:
You or someone needs to confirm what size a belt the 1450 used. See what you have running the tiller now, because I went and checked my 1250 and the 5/8" belt will fit the PTO on it. I suppose it's possible that it is running the wider belt already.

jimbob200521 · #4 05-01-2014, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by _DX3_

xtrememotorworks.com has the lift bar and the lower 2 point, http://xtrememotorworks.com/Parts%20...rts%20List.htm
myself or someone else here will have the upper rock shaft and frankenstein bolts, and it sounds like you will have the lower part covered with the plate. You will also need a mule drive dedicated to the tiller and change out the gearbox pulley with one that will use a 5/8" belt. I do believe that is what the PTO pulley on the 1811 requires.

Here is a pic of my former 782 with the parts needed.

Awesome pic/info, thank you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech

Ryan, you know you can use the sleeve hitch from the 1450 right? You just need a different lift bar. Extrememotorworks sells them for $46. You won't need the lower bracket because it's built into the tiller gear box mounting. Soooooo all you need is the NLA bracket for the 3pt adapter (which I can make) a longer belt, ($70) wider pulley on bottom (e-bay I got one for $45) change the idlers on the mule drive. ($15 a piece at most). Only price I'm not sure of is how much to make the adapter. Last one I made, I want to change, but I used steel I already had.

I'm going to edit this:
You or someone needs to confirm what size a belt the 1450 used. See what you have running the tiller now, because I went and checked my 1250 and the 5/8" belt will fit the PTO on it. I suppose it's possible that it is running the wider belt already.

Doh!!!

I should have known that, I did know that, but it didn't cross my mind. I tend to over complicate things from time to time

So it looks like the NLA bracket is the only thing standing the way then. I know I'd have to buy a belt, pulley, and I have an extra mule drive I can dedicate to the task. As for what's on it now, it's not a 5/8 setup. BTW, thank you sir

Looks like after I get my garden done this weekend, I may have to put the 1450 up on Craigslist, that'll give me about a year to get this setup together

J-Mech · #5 05-01-2014, 11:52 AM

You can use the mule drive off the 1450 too. Just have to change the pulleys.

One of those NLA brackets was for sale NOS on e-bay a while back. I posted a link to it. I probably should have bought it, but I had already made my own, so I didn't. Jut posted the link on here and went on.

OffTime · #6 05-01-2014, 11:35 PM

Am I correct in saying that a 1450 has a manual clutch and an 1811 has an electric clutch? If so, I believe the mule drive is also different in the exact positioning of the pivot point for the pulleys. The belt drops down a little further forward in relation to the main frame of the tractor on the 1811 VS. the 1450. I don't believe the mule drive from the 1450 will work on the 1811. I stand to be corrected if wrong, but that is what my understanding is.