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Old 12-23-2011, 06:29 PM
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I had the engine out of my 125 last summer. Too bad I didn't know about this then.
Flatbedford if that is the original engine there shouldn't be balance gears in it.
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Flatbedford if that is the original engine there shouldn't be balance gears in it.
Please explain this to the new guy. Are they only in later engines?
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:44 PM
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Only the later engines had ballence gears. Dave Kirk knows more about kohler k-series engines than kohler and he created the original crank ballence kit http://www.kirkengines.com/
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Where is the dipstick for your engine? If it's at the top under the hood, it won't have balance gears. If it's on the side by the carb (cam gear cover), then it originally had balance gears. They moved the dipstick to the cam cover because it would interfer with the gears otherwise.
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Where is the dipstick for your engine? If it's at the top under the hood, it won't have balance gears. If it's on the side by the carb (cam gear cover), then it originally had balance gears. They moved the dipstick to the cam cover because it would interfer with the gears otherwise.
red56turbo, Do you know if Kohler used a plug in place of the old dipstick or was the casting changed?
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Where is the dipstick for your engine? If it's at the top under the hood, it won't have balance gears. If it's on the side by the carb (cam gear cover), then it originally had balance gears. They moved the dipstick to the cam cover because it would interfer with the gears otherwise.
Thanks. I am good. That must be why the dang things shakes so much at idle!
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Where is the dipstick for your engine? If it's at the top under the hood, it won't have balance gears. If it's on the side by the carb (cam gear cover), then it originally had balance gears. They moved the dipstick to the cam cover because it would interfer with the gears otherwise.
I wondered how one could tell if they were cursed with balance gears besides opening the engine. So, since my 12 HP Kohler has a dipstick on the front, right-hand side, it doesn't have them? Cool!
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red56turbo, Do you know if Kohler used a plug in place of the old dipstick or was the casting changed?
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I'm assuming the casting was changed. Just looked at the 169 and there was no provision for an upper dipstick. The 124 and 109 both have the upper dipsticks and it was too late to check the others in the shed. If time allows tomorrow, I'll check the 129 and 149 tomorrow.

On a side note, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that none of the 7 or 8 horse motors ever had balance gears, only the 10+ horse motors. IIRC, when the 147 came out, they had the top dipstick with a stub dipstick to allow the owner to fill the oil from there and the bottom camcover dipstick to actually check the oil. The stub dipstick on the top allowed room for the balance gears. I may be off on these two details so someone please correct if I'm wrong.

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I just picked up a 149 yesterday. It has the dipstick on the carb side. I guess I'll be going in for the balance gears. I think the engine will coming out to do some other stuff anyway.
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I doubt they would have changed the casting. It's the same casting, but machined differently.
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