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Old 05-22-2012, 01:19 PM
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Default Quietline electic PTO & seal questions
Am finally at the point where I am cleaning up the engine to drop it back in the 1450 from numerous mods.

With the engine on the bench, I can see that the front PTO area shows the evidence of an oil seal leak.

After dumping the time & money doing cradle mod, ISO mounts, and cleaning the frame up, I really don't want to put a fresh coat of low ash 30 on all my work

Did a search, and really didn't find answers to a few things.

Anyways, here are the questions:

1: Is the front PTO pulley bolt a RH thread or LH? Good to know before I put a cheater on it and shear it off in the crank...
2: Any tips to getting this bolt off with the engine out of the tractor? I did some tentative bracing the rear output bracket scenarios, but again, didn't really heave on it, not knowing the thread direction
3: Is the seal replaceable with the crank still in the engine? The Kohler K-series manual lists oil seals as the second to last thing removed during disassembly. Really don't want to completely strip this engine to the block.
4: Any other pointers/fixes/pitfalls I might hit?

Any input is appreciated,

Shane
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Old 05-22-2012, 02:29 PM
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1: Is the front PTO pulley bolt a RH thread or LH? Good to know before I put a cheater on it and shear it off in the crank...
2: Any tips to getting this bolt off with the engine out of the tractor? I did some tentative bracing the rear output bracket scenarios, but again, didn't really heave on it, not knowing the thread direction


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The threads are right hand.

Use an impact wrench, too much prying and you will break the flywheel!!
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Mine came off really easy on the bench. Once you get all of the PTO off, the seal is right there. Pry the old one out, grease up the new one and find a socket that's the right diameter to tap it in place.
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Thanks folks

Will try the impact.
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The threads are right hand.

Use an impact wrench, too much prying and you will break the flywheel!!
That was the ticket! Spun off like buttah

Now to figure out what to clean the PTO with: nice amalgam of oil and whatnot covering it.

Brake cleaner? Engine de-greaser? Last thing I want to do is use something that cooks that electromagnet.

Pulled the tins off the flywheel, and the engine is coated with the same old greasy mess. Never knew, as it was hidden under the tins (thinking of not putting them back on).



Now, to figure out where it all came from. Should I just do all the gaskets? I have a complete set.

I don't plan on using the fiber gasket for the oil pan, rather using "right stuff" gasket maker. Reason being, when I pulled the oil pan, the only place where the gasket was "sticking" and doing any sealing, was the 4 bolt holes, so it probably just dumped oil. And I have had good luck with the permatex product before.
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That was the ticket! Spun off like buttah

Now to figure out what to clean the PTO with: nice amalgam of oil and whatnot covering it.

Brake cleaner? Engine de-greaser? Last thing I want to do is use something that cooks that electromagnet.

Pulled the tins off the flywheel, and the engine is coated with the same old greasy mess. Never knew, as it was hidden under the tins (thinking of not putting them back on).
Electric contact cleaner should be fine for the electic PTO coil.

As far as engine tins. Put them back on of course. It is an air cooled engine and needs the tins in place to move air across the cooling fins correctly.
(Unless I misread your question.)

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Old 05-23-2012, 01:21 PM
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Electric contact cleaner should be fine for the electic PTO coil.

As far as engine tins. Put them back on of course. It is an air cooled engine and needs the tins in place to move air across the cooling fins correctly.
(Unless I misread your question.)

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I was figuring as much regarding the tins. Check out the pic I put in the previous post to see the "fur" living under the tins.

Good call on the contact cleaner. Will take a ride to the parts store for a can.
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Electric contact cleaner should be fine for the electic PTO coil.

As far as engine tins. Put them back on of course. It is an air cooled engine and needs the tins in place to move air across the cooling fins correctly.
(Unless I misread your question.)

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Exactly! Clean the crap out of the fins so it looks better and will in turn perform better. The tins are crucial for engine cooling. I keep mine as clean as I can (of debris) so my motor doesn't over heat.
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