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Old 12-11-2013, 09:42 AM
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Sam Mac or anyone else, can you confirm that the part number I need for and additional hydraulic valve for my cyclops SGT, model 2084 is 717-3308a?

Then I will just need to make a handle to operate the valve, correct?

Thanks for the help guys!
Yep that's the number
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Old 12-11-2013, 09:44 AM
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I just want you to understand that I have never added the front hydraulics to any of my tractors. That said it looks like a pretty straight forward project. Reading the service manual as I understand it they just stack a second valve on top of the existing valve using 1 of those adapters we have been talking about in this thread between the 2 valves. The red arrow in the pic of the valve shows where that adapter goes. The valves are common between all the Cyclops series tractor that have hydraulic lift. I would try the sponsors at the top of the page for the valve and handle. I would also try to get the hoses that go to the lift cylinder. I think you could then just buy some flare unions from Aeroquip or Parker to extend the hoses to the front of the tractor, not sure at the moment if they are JIC or AN but I will check it out. Aeroquip also makes a fitting they call Versil-Flare that I think would work well to extend the return line that runs from the top of the valve back to the tee fitting under the tunnel cover. If any of you guys need the service manual and or the higher resolution pics that are posted here send me a PM with your e-mail address and I’ll get them out to you.
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Sam - thanks for the response and pictures. You confirmed exactly what I was thinking. I agree, it looks like a very straight forward project, I just need to find the valve first.

Thanks for the offer, I will shoot you a PM.

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Sam, you can put me down for a pair of connectors. I still have enough of the other parts around to adapt a Cyclops for a 4-way plow. Thanks for the help!
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Sam - I would like to get 2 of these as well when you get it all figured out. I will keep monitoring this thread for progress. Thanks for all of the help!
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Old 12-12-2013, 04:38 PM
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Guys

I don't understand why most of you are asking for more that 1 of these things? As far as I know you only need 1 to go between the 2 valves. Like I said before I am not doing this conversion myself nor have I ever seen one in person. I have no need for front hydraulics on my Cubs. Reading the manual for the Cyclops front hydraulic kit it only shows 1 of these adapters needed. The adapter goes between your existing valve and the valve being added allowing the fluid to flow from the existing valve into the new valve. I think the bigger issue for those of you will be the hoses. That said this is the list of members that have expressed interest in the adapters and the quantity they have told me they want. Let me know if you wish to change the amount.

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I have been following the thread with interest. I would be more interested in a adapter that would allow fitting a hose to it. (Pipe fitting) Different setup, but would make the spool from these newer machines usable to any system.

Note on the o-ring and washer. the washer is not needed as noted, but makes the connection more reliable and serviceable in the field. IH moved to that in the VT365 6.0 ford used for the standpipe which feeds the oil to the injectors. eliminated o-ring blowout.
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I have been following the thread with interest. I would be more interested in a adapter that would allow fitting a hose to it. (Pipe fitting) Different setup, but would make the spool from these newer machines usable to any system.

Note on the o-ring and washer. the washer is not needed as noted, but makes the connection more reliable and serviceable in the field. IH moved to that in the VT365 6.0 ford used for the standpipe which feeds the oil to the injectors. eliminated o-ring blowout.
I'm looking into how to make something that will connect to the valve and adapt to pipe or AN threads. Aeroquip makes a braze on fitting that goes from tube to #6 AN that looks like it may play. My other thought would to take the valve apart and cut threads in the ports for a fitting. Gotta love redesigning MTD stuff.
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I don't understand why most of you are asking for more that 1 of these things? As far as I know you only need 1 to go between the 2 valves. Like I said before I am not doing this conversion myself nor have I ever seen one in person. I have no need for front hydraulics on my Cubs. Reading the manual for the Cyclops front hydraulic kit it only shows 1 of these adapters needed. The adapter goes between your existing valve and the valve being added allowing the fluid to flow from the existing valve into the new valve. I think the bigger issue for those of you will be the hoses. That said this is the list of members that have expressed interest in the adapters and the quantity they have told me they want. Let me know if you wish to change the amount.

Rescue11 3
Oak 1 NC because he is supplying the OEM part to copy.
V30crewcab 2
Jubilee 2
Cubyfan 2
Captain B 2
LiamD 1


I'm installing two additional valves on my 18, and another 1 on dads 18. I understand the concept of needing 1 for each additional valve. Plus with the new 2284 added to the fleet, I want to have a few of these stubs around. Especially for this gr8 price. I have extra stack valves that I have purchased over time. Purchased many hoses with the flange that hooks to the stack valve! Can't wait!
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So, from what I've read here and looking at the parts list, it looks pretty easy to install the valve. The hard part for me will be the pipe/hoses. The closest to doing hydraulic lines were just simply replacing a leaking part with a new one.
From what I can figure is I will need the original pipes off of a valve and partway down add longer hose to the front, then the quick connectors. Does that sound like the best plan? Should I be looking on ebay for some used pipes, or buy some new ones at $65.00 apiece? Am I be better off bending new pipe all of the way to the front? I wish I could find the premade parts so I could just do a bolt in,(I love pre bent pipe) but I don't think that will happen. Just some random thought while I wait for parts! Don


http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Cub-Cade...item43c2f61252

Look at this stuff! Could I make some of this stuff work? Or not!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cub-Cadet-18...item232ce161dd

This looks like the right pipe to valve body I need
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