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Old 02-18-2014, 12:46 PM
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Wow, not the response I expected from a Cub Cadet forum. LOL

. . . but I certainly will listen to all advise from people that are in the know.


In the defense of the new tractor prices, I have already been checking on actual sale prices and got responses as low as $5200 out the door -- that's a GTX2100 with the fabricated 48" deck. That particular deck apparently lists for $900 by itself. That's still pretty expensive -- but not as bad as the $6400 that you figured up.
I'm not telling not to buy it. After all it's your $$$. Just saying that I wouldn't. Let me put it this way. I have about $3000.00 in each of these and they both have 60" decks.

I see that your a new member so let me say welcome to OCC. Take your time and look around at who has what and what they like. Think you will find that most of us own stuff that is pre 1996.
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:42 PM
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I really have to agree with Sam, I don't think the new machines hold a candle to the older ones.

I personally don't own anything newer that an early-mid 70's Wide Frame and I love them. I maintain about 6 acres year round, they do anything that I ask of them.

They aren't all the prettiest gals at the dance but I don't have $2000.00 in any of them and they'll be around longer than I will.

I would like to have a Super though.
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Old 02-18-2014, 02:13 PM
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I'm not telling not to buy it. After all it's your $$$. Just saying that I wouldn't. Let me put it this way. I have about $3000.00 in each of these and they both have 60" decks.

I see that your a new member so let me say welcome to OCC. Take your time and look around at who has what and what they like. Think you will find that most of us own stuff that is pre 1996.

What Sam said.

Sam, is that counting labor too?
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Old 02-18-2014, 02:37 PM
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Sam, is that counting labor too?
I know that's kind of a joke, but it does make a point.

I really don't have a lot of time to tinker around with anything extra at this time. I want something I can buy and use and, other than regular maintenance, require no additional attention for a while.

Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoy tinkering and doing mechanic work and would love to buy an old tractor and fix it up, but I just don't have the time right now. With two toddlers and a third due in a couple weeks, I'd rather spend my spare time with my family than fixing my tools.

It's also the reason why I'm thinking of opting to spend more on a 2000 series and not the 1000.... I certainly don't need that big of a machine; it just seems like it will have a better longevity and have less issues in the long run. And, according to everyone here, the new Cubs are so crappy that they need all the help they can get. LOL
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I have three q uietlines and all three together I have probably 1000 wrapped up. The most I have had to do was clean the carb change the oil and spark plug as well as rearwnd fluid. And they maintain about 3 Acer as well as a few friends and family's property just fine.... my smallest being the 1000 with a 38 inch deck the 1200 with a 44 and my 1450 with a 50 . I dont think ill ever buy a new machine
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I have three q uietlines and all three together I have probably 1000 wrapped up. The most I have had to do was clean the carb change the oil and spark plug as well as rearwnd fluid.
I don't doubt that many people on here have very reliable tractors that didn't cost much; however, you have to admit that it's not that simple to shop around, find a deal on an old tractor, get it home, and have it up and running and cutting correctly.

How many of you right now will sell me one of yours for the "$1000" that you have in them? Heck, I'll offer $3000 for one that is turn-key and ready to go.... of course, that would include a warranty and free delivery to Alabama. I'm guessing not one of you would seriously take me up on that offer.

My point is that there is a lot more to it than just magically finding a fully functional old tractor that requires no adjustments or repairs whatsoever. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I just don't have the time to spend right now. They say time is money, and this is no exception. Because I'd rather spend my time on other things, I'll have to spend a bit more money on this purchase.

I appreciate the feedback and I respect the recommendations, but this thread was really just an attempt to find out whether or not there was a justified reason for a 22% price increase in the 2014 tractors.
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Old 02-18-2014, 04:16 PM
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I really don't have a lot of time to tinker around with anything extra at this time. I want something I can buy and use and, other than regular maintenance, require no additional attention for a while.
Do not count on that philosophy.
The newer the machine, the more complicated with more doodads that will go wrong.
Just like the newest motor vehicles.
The manufacturers do not follow the K.I.S.S. mantra.

MSRP is merely a price point on paper. Bump the MSRP by 22% but sell for 5% less than last years MSRP and the buyer is all giddy with the "bargain".
There are some that pay MSRP, but what, maybe 1 out of 20 customers?

Welcome to this forum but keep in mind the vast majority of us are owners of what are now considered "vintage" machines.

When a muffler for one of our 1980 something CC sells for $500 on ebay, maybe the MSRP's of new ones ain't so bad after all.
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I see that your a new member so let me say welcome to OCC. Take your time and look around at who has what and what they like. Think you will find that most of us own stuff that is pre 1996.
Thanks for the welcome.

I actually have looked around quite a bit since I joined last year, and I do see that most active members seem to own the older Cubs. However, I didn't think there would be such a hatred towards the new stuff. LOL
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Old 02-18-2014, 04:33 PM
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No hatred here.
I think most of us just can't fathom paying current MSRP for anything.
The older we get the more we shake our heads at what they want for new equipment.
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I might be opening a can of worms here but my workhorse is a 2010 X540 'green' garden tractor. It was expensive, high 4 figures, but it has been bulletproof and is a dream to operate. I love my old Cub Cadets but they just aren't in the same league. There are still a lot of old Cub Cadets doing a beautiful job to this day but there's no guarantee the older Cub Cadet you buy is going to be "the one". It could end up being a huge boat anchor. If it's in the budget, buy a new, or slightly used, tractor and enjoy the kiddos while you can.
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