Tandem disk on a sleeve hitch

[CADplans]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

Or..... because it smooths it up and fills in the dead furrows. The tiller won't till level when it isn't working on level soil.

A dead furrow is one of the reasons I do not plow my garden.

[Shaner]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

Or..... because it smooths it up and fills in the dead furrows. The tiller won't till level when it isn't working on level soil.

Sure it does. I've done it many times. Most of the time now I don't even plow a garden I just run a tiller. I've had disks I've pulled around with the cubs and they don't do much besides just ride over the clumps. Start weighting it down and the tractor wouldn't pull it without spinning. I sold the brinly double ganger I had. It was cool but I never used it. I've also used the bigger krause 32ft disks and they worked okay but they also have some weight behind them to really cut in!

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by Shaner

Sure it does. I've done it many times. Most of the time now I don't even plow a garden I just run a tiller. I've had disks I've pulled around with the cubs and they don't do much besides just ride over the clumps. Start weighting it down and the tractor wouldn't pull it without spinning. I sold the brinly double ganger I had. It was cool but I never used it. I've also used the bigger krause 32ft disks and they worked okay but they also have some weight behind them to really cut in!

I don't know how much farm experience you have..... but I've been involved in it all my life. I really don't want to debate the purpose, or benefit/downfalls of a disks use. Not that I don't believe you that they don't weigh enough to go in the ground well, but all the ones that I've seen, including the one I now have, they don't have the correct angle. That makes more difference than weight. Just like the guys who put weights on their plows. It's not because they need it..... It's because they don't know how to set it. I'm confident, that once I get it set up correctly, it will do a fine job. I'm not just needing it for a garden. I do a lot of other tillage work for hire. Leveling and re-seeding yards, work at the local ball diamond and the like. If you have used a disk and didn't like the result, it's probably because you don't know how to set it. A disk is a very good tool if you know how to use it.

[mjsoldcub]

The angle part is true...i remember pulling a 10' er around on an old minnie moe when i was a kid that you actually had to hand crank into ><!! what a pain in the A#$ that was!!! Thing was probably 100yrs old back then, and i remember getting tired and being like, "ok good enough", and it wouldnt do shit....get back off, crank some more...then back to parallel, thats how it was transported, before hydraulics, and probably rubber!!!

[Shaner]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

I don't know how much farm experience you have..... but I've been involved in it all my life. I really don't want to debate the purpose, or benefit/downfalls of a disks use. Not that I don't believe you that they don't weigh enough to go in the ground well, but all the ones that I've seen, including the one I now have, they don't have the correct angle. That makes more difference than weight. Just like the guys who put weights on their plows. It's not because they need it..... It's because they don't know how to set it. I'm confident, that once I get it set up correctly, it will do a fine job. I'm not just needing it for a garden. I do a lot of other tillage work for hire. Leveling and re-seeding yards, work at the local ball diamond and the like. If you have used a disk and didn't like the result, it's probably because you don't know how to set it. A disk is a very good tool if you know how to use it.

I've been working on farms all my life. Most farms ive been on have parked the disk in favor of either no till, or field cultivators followed by a crumbled or a cultimulcher of some sorts. Plus certain disks leave "hills" that allot of farmers don't care for. Mainly because of the large gap between the two rear gangs.

Just stating I'm not a fan of disks. I'd rather have a field cultivator with a leveling bar of some sorts

[clint]

angle is no substitute for weight, daddy had a set of harrows for his GT, I pulled it with no weight it wouldn't even go deep enough to cover a pea !! Added some weight to it it still wouldn't roll dirt lol. I need a miniature set of Taylor-way harrows or a offset harrow. I guess getting it to work to your expectations would only be possible after setting it up as a double gang ? Have you tried the harrow (just one set) yet if so does it work ?

[zippy1]

I know I'm aging myself here, but back before all this modern day farming came about, to prepare a field we would start out with a disc to break open the soil. The idea of disc-in first was so when you came in with the plow it rolled the soil over better and there weren't big chunks.
We would first go length ways then the short way.
From there we would plow the field with a five bottom on the 856, then disc the field again length ways to level it and fill in the dead furrows, and then the short way.
Follow that up with the drag, long, short, long way and your field was prepared for planting.
I know you young guys think that's a lot of "farting around" but it made one beautiful, smooth field. Sure it was time consuming, but that was OK, because I was making $1.50 an hour
I still think a disc is all about the set up more so then weight.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by Shaner

I've been working on farms all my life. Most farms ive been on have parked the disk in favor of either no till, or field cultivators followed by a crumbled or a cultimulcher of some sorts. Plus certain disks leave "hills" that allot of farmers don't care for. Mainly because of the large gap between the two rear gangs.

Just stating I'm not a fan of disks. I'd rather have a field cultivator with a leveling bar of some sorts

A good disk won't ridge, if it's set right. Most of the time, a ridge is left because the operator is driving too fast.

Originally Posted by clint

angle is no substitute for weight, daddy had a set of harrows for his GT, I pulled it with no weight it wouldn't even go deep enough to cover a pea !! Added some weight to it it still wouldn't roll dirt lol. I need a miniature set of Taylor-way harrows or a offset harrow. I guess getting it to work to your expectations would only be possible after setting it up as a double gang ? Have you tried the harrow (just one set) yet if so does it work ?

It's not a "harrow" its a disk. You say that angle is no substitute for weight, and that you added weight and it still didn't work. Did you try changing the angle?


Listen guys I've ran way too much equipment for too many years to argue about this. Disks work. It's all about the setting. I'm confident this little disk will work, the question I have, is once I get it set up to do it's job, will I be able to pull it.

Originally Posted by zippy1

I know I'm aging myself here, but back before all this modern day farming came about, to prepare a field we would start out with a disc to break open the soil. The idea of disc-in first was so when you came in with the plow it rolled the soil over better and there weren't big chunks.
We would first go length ways then the short way.
From there we would plow the field with a five bottom on the 856, then disc the field again length ways to level it and fill in the dead furrows, and then the short way.
Follow that up with the drag, long, short, long way and your field was prepared for planting.
I know you young guys think that's a lot of "farting around" but it made one beautiful, smooth field. Sure it was time consuming, but that was OK, because I was making $1.50 an hour
I still think a disc is all about the set up more so then weight.

Todd, I couldn't agree more!!

[IACubCadet]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

A good disk won't ridge, if it's set right. Most of the time, a ridge is left because the operator is driving too fast.




It's not a "harrow" its a disk. You say that angle is no substitute for weight, and that you added weight and it still didn't work. Did you try changing the angle?


Listen guys I've ran way too much equipment for too many years to argue about this. Disks work. It's all about the setting. I'm confident this little disk will work, the question I have, is once I get it set up to do it's job, will I be able to pull it.




Todd, I couldn't agree more!!

I can't agree more with both of you! A disk is a great tillage tool and can be very useful, especially if set right. Since we grow a lot of small grains, a disk (and a harrow) is our best tillage tools because it allows for shallow burial of small grain seeds...and the harrow allows you to get rid of the tire tracks. We still harrow every field after planting of corn, soybeans, or oats...in the hills it saves a lot of erosion potential, especially if there is potential for lots of rain.

[dirtcowboy]

I also agree a disc is a great tillage tool. My buddy and I have a tillage business we do on the side prior to our full time jobs and we use this tandem disc setup when there are huge chunks from when we mold board plowed a garden and the IH rear mounted tiller wants to till uneven caused by the tractor driving over big chunks of soil or sod. It does a fantastic job of filling in furrows and leveling but I do put blocks on it just so the disc busts up dirt clods instead of riding over them and to cut sod if it's a fresh garden we just put in but setup has a major play in how it cuts also. It does a great job cutting up old foliage in gardens from previous season prior to plowing it. I also have used a field cultivator to breakup the first inch or 2 of topsoil which is a great tool also. I have no problem pulling the tandem disc even with a harrow behind it with the 982 but i enjoy the seat time. This pic is taken after I disked down mold board plowed ground before tiller ran across garden. I know the garden is damp but customer wanted it done.