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Old 03-27-2014, 02:40 AM
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I was tinkering in the shed with my old as dirt Roper snow-blower. It has the 110v starter on it. My question is would it be possible to put such a system on one of my Cubs? Ie the 1450. But still retain the 12 volt starter? I would image I'd need some type of converter but beings my shed is no longer heated and only has enough room for one of my six tractors, it would be a handy thing to have especially in the winter months. What is y'alls opinion I think it would be a very useful addition
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:08 AM
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That would be almost like putting a battery charger on it! But I'm not fond of always zapping the 12 volt system with a charger just to get the machine going. A proper converter would work... one that cleanly converts 110 to 12 volts. Not that I know of any.

My experience is with a properly maintained system is to replace the battery when weak and old, especially before the winter months. New battery... starts every time with plenty of oomph! Good for a few years. And my little secret is stay away form the Box Stores batteries. I like Interstate Batteries found in L&G places.
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:33 AM
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The 110V starters are a completely different system. You would have to have 2 starters on the motor. Where on earth would you mount it? No, it isn't do-able.
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:51 AM
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I myself have never seen a Kohler engine with a 110v starter on it, not saying that they don't make such a thing, I've just never seen one.

If Kohler ever did use such a thing... You would first need to find out where it mounts to on the engine. If it mounts in the same place as the 12v starter then you would most likely be stuck with either/or. If it mounts in a different place and if there is enough room for both, then you would need to acquire the 110v starter and all of the parts that are associated with this type of starter. Then you would most likely need to have an area in the bearing plate machined to accommodate the starter drive and the blower housing would also need to be modified.

Then you would need to find a way to actuate the starter.

If the required parts were ever made, this sounds like it could be an interesting project. In the end, I'm not sure it would be worth the effort, but that would depend on the user.
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Old 03-27-2014, 12:16 PM
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I'm sure if you spent enough $$$$$ on it you could come up with something.

Kohler does make a 110v electric starter.
http://www.kohlerenginekits.com/17-7...its_p_253.html

It fits this snow blower engine
http://www.brandnewengines.com/wh208-0004.aspx

How you would go about having both on the same engine I have no idea.
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Lets think outside the box!!

Now, this is for winter use, right? Assist starting to ease the strain on the battery?

1) take out the grill
2) spin the engine with a socket, extension, and BMF electric drill plugged into 110VAC



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Lets think outside the box!!

Now, this is for winter use, right? Assist starting to ease the strain on the battery?

1) take out the grill
2) spin the engine with a socket, extension, and BMF electric drill plugged into 110VAC



Hmm, maybe switch to a 120v during the winter then back to 12v during summer instead of trying to rig both up?
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I was thinking of using the 110 setup somehow stepping it down to 12 volt and I it on the starter. Would use the same button Thats on the 110 plug. I think getting it to 12 volts would be easy. But what about amperage? I dunno exactly what it would pull. And dont want to backfired he system with 10 times the amps it is suppost to handle. Lol. Just a idea I was thinking of when I was bored
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It will pull as much amperage as it needs. Your battery has somewhere around 400(?) amps available to the system. To get that much 12v power is not going to come from a regular wall outlet. A good battery charger with the jump feature puts out 200 amps. My suggestion if you want to plug it in to start better is to plug it into a trickle charger when not in use.

Now my outside the box answer is too bad your a quiet line guy and don't have any with a starter generator. You could pop off the s/g and mount a 110v motor to the bracket. If it was a plow tractor you could make a bracket to back feed through the pto to start so the a/g would still power lights.

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Old 03-27-2014, 03:32 PM
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If you had a 110 volt starter on it unless you are contemplatiing on changing the available 12 volt DC to 110 AC to use the starter how would you get it going when you stall at the end of your drive or the far corner of the yard.
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