New Cub Cadet tractor.

[HoundDog]

My 127 makes me wish the grass grew faster. I'm on the IH side of the thing. My only complaint with my old tractor is blade speed. But, on the other hand, mowing at a slower speed gives me more seat time!

[MinnesotaCadet]

Originally Posted by johncub7172

I know. No one is telling me I have to go out and buy one. I mean, what manufactured in this day of age that can't be made better? Not saying there are not better choices, but come on......

I'd take a new Cub Cadet lawn tractor in my line up any day! So would a lot of folks who would rather buy new every so many years too. I see many folks on the new Cub Cadets. I would with out doubt, find a more pleasurable operation in a new Cub Cadet than an old-ash big-dummy garden tractor.

I find it hard to swallow opinions when I have not had the chance to operate a new Cub Cadet.

Originally Posted by Shotgun Wedding

99% of the response on here are sooooo predictable.

It's Ok guys, everyone loves your old stuff, no one is putting that down. Why the "junk" comments? The box store machines are what they are, and are intended for that. But man, that XT3 aka GTX will run circles around most of yours! And that is the truth.

I guess everyone is driving 60's trucks everyday too. Technology is not stuck in the Cretaceous Period! Robotic welded GTX frame is very robust, it may not stand up if chained to a 982 but who does stupid stuff like that anyway?

Rant over, flame away.

I feel like these two are the more down to earth people here. And to side with Shotgun Wedding. My grandparents have a 2002 craftsman something rather. I have mowed with it and I can say that it is NOT crap. It will mow better and faster than ANY of my old Cubs. That IS A FACT. Technology grows people. It may not be as durable but it might do the job better. And I am seriously considering buying one of these new Cub Cadets. I don't care what anyone thinks. I want something that I know will start. Many of my IH Cubs I'm not sure will start without needing to be jumped or have starter fluid injected(That's mostly my fault for buying all the beat up old ones). You are all basically insulting your own tractors. The engineers over at Cub Cadet put a lot of time and the have pride in there work. Then this happens. Nonstop criticism. But as of now I'm using my 1650 for mowing and I can say my grandparents mower would get it done faster with just as good of a cut.

I just needed to get that out of my system.

[jimbob200521]

Originally Posted by MinnesotaCadet

I feel like these two are the more down to earth people here. And to side with Shotgun Wedding. My grandparents have a 2002 craftsman something rather. I have mowed with it and I can say that it is NOT crap. It will mow better and faster than ANY of my old Cubs. That IS A FACT. Technology grows people. It may not be as durable but it might do the job better. And I am seriously considering buying one of these new Cub Cadets. I don't care what anyone thinks. I want something that I know will start. Many of my IH Cubs I'm not sure will start without needing to be jumped or have starter fluid injected(That's mostly my fault for buying all the beat up old ones). You are all basically insulting your own tractors. The engineers over at Cub Cadet put a lot of time and the have pride in there work. Then this happens. Nonstop criticism. But as of now I'm using my 1650 for mowing and I can say my grandparents mower would get it done faster with just as good of a cut.

I just needed to get that out of my system.

I think the guys (I can speak for myself, at least) that are "insulting" the new Cubs are doing so mostly out of jest and frustration with the way things are today. I don't think anybody is saying the new Cubs can't cut grass quickly and well, we're all talking about longevity and getting the best bang for your buck. Maybe we're speaking on a commentary on society, that not everything has to be faster, more curvy, and linked to a phone. Your grandparents 2002 Craftsman may cut grass quick and well, and may do it quicker than your older Cubs, but put it against a good 82 series, or Cyclops, or Super, then compare aftermarket options and parts support down the road. Part of the problem with newer machines is who knows if parts (outside the engine) will be available for the deck, frame, body panels, etc 5, 10, 20 years down the line. The guys who are "knocking" the newer machines aren't necessarily doing so because they don't think they can cut grass well or push snow with a blade, or use a tiller, or a plow, etc, it's because they don't have confidence in them to be still working strong 20+ years from now. They don't know that parts will still be readily available for them 20+ years from now. Older Cubs (and other GT's) are proven over 20, 30+ years to be reliable, old iron that takes a lickin, keeps on tickin.

If I wasn't from a farm background, or didn't want to work on things like I do, yeah, I would be all over a newer machine because all I'd want to do is cut grass. But the more you know, the more you learn, the more you want to do, the older Cubs become more and more appealing. I have a neighbor who mows half the field between his place and mine. He uses a Craftsman from the early 2000's I'd guess. Still works, and it isn't falling apart, too much. He adds oil, starts it up, and cuts his yard, then goes inside. He zips around because he wants to get the job done and be off the thing. When I mow, I check the oil, start it up, let it warm up, then sit proudly atop 15+ year old machinery that will continue to run strong for years to come and enjoy every pass I make.

So for the old vs new: it's a pride thing. It's a long term build quality and parts thing. It's an aesthetic thing. It's an old iron vs new steel/plastic thing. It's a personal preference thing. But it is not a personal thing, making it my old vs your new. Don't take comments personally, they are opinions. The guys defending the new stuff are just as bad as the guys knocking it.

Now, let's get back to the new Cubs released today and wait and see what the build quality is like under the shiney new hood and paint

[MinnesotaCadet]

Originally Posted by jimbob200521

I think the guys (I can speak for myself, at least) that are "insulting" the new Cubs are doing so mostly out of jest and frustration with the way things are today. I don't think anybody is saying the new Cubs can't cut grass quickly and well, we're all talking about longevity and getting the best bang for your buck. Maybe we're speaking on a commentary on society, that not everything has to be faster, more curvy, and linked to a phone. Your grandparents 2002 Craftsman may cut grass quick and well, and may do it quicker than your older Cubs, but put it against a good 82 series, or Cyclops, or Super, then compare aftermarket options and parts support down the road. Part of the problem with newer machines is who knows if parts (outside the engine) will be available for the deck, frame, body panels, etc 5, 10, 20 years down the line. The guys who are "knocking" the newer machines aren't necessarily doing so because they don't think they can cut grass well or push snow with a blade, or use a tiller, or a plow, etc, it's because they don't have confidence in them to be still working strong 20+ years from now. They don't know that parts will still be readily available for them 20+ years from now. Older Cubs (and other GT's) are proven over 20, 30+ years to be reliable, old iron that takes a lickin, keeps on tickin.

If I wasn't from a farm background, or didn't want to work on things like I do, yeah, I would be all over a newer machine because all I'd want to do is cut grass. But the more you know, the more you learn, the more you want to do, the older Cubs become more and more appealing. I have a neighbor who mows half the field between his place and mine. He uses a Craftsman from the early 2000's I'd guess. Still works, and it isn't falling apart, too much. He adds oil, starts it up, and cuts his yard, then goes inside. He zips around because he wants to get the job done and be off the thing. When I mow, I check the oil, start it up, let it warm up, then sit proudly atop 15+ year old machinery that will continue to run strong for years to come and enjoy every pass I make.

So for the old vs new: it's a pride thing. It's a long term build quality and parts thing. It's an aesthetic thing. It's an old iron vs new steel/plastic thing. It's a personal preference thing. But it is not a personal thing, making it my old vs your new. Don't take comments personally, they are opinions. The guys defending the new stuff are just as bad as the guys knocking it.

Now, let's get back to the new Cubs released today and wait and see what the build quality is like under the shiney new hood and paint

I agree in every way. I own mostly old but I still have some new things around here. I'm just sayin. I'm still loyal to Cub Cadet and I wouldn't mind owning one of them. I also feel that the ones insulting the new tractors shouldn't tell anyone that they are loyal to cub cadets. If you insult any Cub Cadet in anyway, you aren't loyal to your brand and you don't deserve to say that. It made me sad seeing all the people here just bashing it.

[j4c11]

Originally Posted by jimbob200521

I think the guys (I can speak for myself, at least) that are "insulting" the new Cubs are doing so mostly out of jest and frustration with the way things are today.

I agree. It upsets me to see MTD take the Cub Cadet name, once an icon of quality and reliability, and put it on some POS* machinery with 4 wheels that they call tractors.





* Point Of Sale

[Sam Mac]

Guys

We get the old compared new thing every couple months. Kind of like the Hy-Tran compared to every other oil under the Sun. It's all about what you like and what you want to do with your cash. Just my 2 cents but I don't give a crap what you want to buy, it's your money. I like old stuff, I'm old, my tractors are old and we get along. I guess new fancy looking stuff is what the world is all about today. Probably why there is some new wiz bang cell phone out every other day that you can't live without. OK Rant over. Do what ever you want.

[cubs-n-bxrs]

Originally Posted by Sam Mac

Guys

We get the old compared new thing every couple months. Kind of like the Hy-Tran compared to every other oil under the Sun. It's all about what you like and what you want to do with your cash. Just my 2 cents but I don't give a crap what you want to buy, it's your money. I like old stuff, I'm old, my tractors are old and we get along. I guess new fancy looking stuff is what the world is all about today. Probably why there is some new wiz bang cell phone out every other day that you can't live without. OK Rant over. Do what ever you want.

LOL Sam you pretty much hit the nail on the head. I would warp back to the 60's-70's in a heartbeat. Give me old school stuff any day. Life was the cats meow prior to cell phones and computers.

[Shotgun Wedding]

Originally Posted by Sam Mac

Guys

We get the old compared new thing every couple months. Kind of like the Hy-Tran compared to every other oil under the Sun. It's all about what you like and what you want to do with your cash. Just my 2 cents but I don't give a crap what you want to buy, it's your money. I like old stuff, I'm old, my tractors are old and we get along. I guess new fancy looking stuff is what the world is all about today. Probably why there is some new wiz bang cell phone out every other day that you can't live without. OK Rant over. Do what ever you want.

I don't think you get it. It's not about fancy machines, although the Bluetooth idea is pretty dumb, buying a new GTX is about reliability. 95% of this forum is based on putting the old pieces back together, my spindle bearings seized and my trunion is screwed blah blah blah.

The new machines, the robust ones that we spend $6 grand on, which incidentally is same as what these 70s machines cost back then in comparable dollars are about performance. I pull a cultivator and box blade with mine all the time, would plow too if I had a need which I do not. My point is these new machines we spend our money on are more than fancy!

Lets ask one question. If any of us died and our spouses decided to stay in the house/farm they live, would you be comfortable leaving them to 30 year old machines to keep the grass cut and the garden planted?? I think not.

[Shotgun Wedding]

Originally Posted by cubs-n-bxrs

LOL Sam you pretty much hit the nail on the head. I would warp back to the 60's-70's in a heartbeat. Give me old school stuff any day. Life was the cats meow prior to cell phones and computers.

And I think this must be jest. As if things were better in the 60s 70s. My god, that's preposterous.

[jimbob200521]

Originally Posted by Shotgun Wedding

I don't think you get it. It's not about fancy machines, although the Bluetooth idea is pretty dumb, buying a new GTX is about reliability. 95% of this forum is based on putting the old pieces back together, my spindle bearings seized and my trunion is screwed blah blah blah.

The new machines, the robust ones that we spend $6 grand on, which incidentally is same as what these 70s machines cost back then in comparable dollars are about performance. I pull a cultivator and box blade with mine all the time, would plow too if I had a need which I do not. My point is these new machines we spend our money on are more than fancy!

Lets ask one question. If any of us died and our spouses decided to stay in the house/farm they live, would you be comfortable leaving them to 30 year old machines to keep the grass cut and the garden planted?? I think not.

In my sitiation, here, yes I absolutely would. Unless, this must have been in jest.

Originally Posted by Shotgun Wedding

And I think this must be jest. As if things were better in the 60s 70s. My god, that's preposterous.

I'm not even going to go there