Just a little rant about my least favorite tool

[CubCadet129]

I am only 14 but have been buying tools when I was 5. That is nine years. I have some of my grandpas craftsmans and they work great still. I have about 2000 dollars worth of tools ranging from Milwaukee to craftsman to blue point to Pittsburgh. Also, craftsman is now made in China, but so are some snapon products.

[CubCadet129]

And pics of random stuff that you "work" on doesn't mean you know tools.

[spudder]

Jonathan, Quit debating tools and get busy using them to get the 1872 pictured done! Just in jest, 'cause we both know whose tractor that is.
Better get your snow machines ready too.
Tim

[a3v03v0]

Found this set. They are made by Lang, Lang purchased Kastar and as I said earlier Kastar was said to make the ones for Snap-On.

Are they as good as Snap-On maybe, A reviewer on Amazon said

these pliers are the same as the snap-on set. this company actually produces this set for snap-on. save some money!

Do these resemble yours J-Mech ?

$72 and good reviews. But they still look stamped to me.

[Shrewcub]

Originally Posted by a3v03v0

Found this

They look to be the same, except the grips. Snap On's that I have, have "rubbery" grips. They are about 10 years old tho. Some newer Mac or Matco pairs I have, use a quarter turn hinge to reverse them. I like that setup better.

Those do look like a good deal and a good tool. Problem would be getting them replaced when they break. I have broken Snap Ons before.

[Shotgun Wedding]

Originally Posted by CubCadet129

And pics of random stuff that you "work" on doesn't mean you know tools.

Seriously? Not that Jon needs defending for god sakes, but you're 14 and you debating tools with a master, licensed mechanic with his own business who earns his livelihood with his tools? Seriously?


Dude....this is not a fight that can be won, nor is there any point to winning it. Just sayin'. Ease up on the stick and level out.

I have a pair of Channel-Lock snap-ring pliers myself, are they Snap-On quality? No. Would I like a Snap-on? Yes. Will I buy one? No. Do I use my tools for my livelihood? No. Is Craftsman good enough for guys like me? Yes. Would Snap-On be better? Yes. Would I tell the difference? Probably. Do I care? No.

I'm hungry. I thought there was popcorn here.

[red56turbo]

Originally Posted by jimbob200521

Agree with both points. If I was using my tools to make a living, I wouldn't have the set with the exchangeable tips. But for someone who just works in his own garage on Cubs, garden tractors, and his own vehicles, a $20 set is just fine. If it breaks in 5, 10 years, it's not like they'll be expensive to replace.

My point is, you BOTH have valid points. John is right in saying you get what you pay for; if in 50 years his break, he gets new ones for free. That is the right choice for a professional mechanic. But the other side is it doesn't make sense for a guy like me to drop big coin on a professional set when I use them less than 6 times a year on a Cub.

So there, we can all be right!!

This right here is the BEST comment on this subject I've read so far.
Kudos Ryan!!!!

Everyone has different knowledge levels depending on what they do and how old they are. My oldest brother is a mechanic with thirty years of experience and prolly has spent north of $40,000 on tools over the years. Snap-on. Not my cup of tea, but it works for him.

CubCadet129, use/buy what works for you. Good to have the younger generation in our hobby. Hopefully every teen that joins here doesn't get run off.

Hope everyone else feels better for raking a 14 year old over the coals. I think he did pretty darn good standing up for himself.

Now what was the original topic before is derailed and blew up?

[red56turbo]

Originally Posted by Shotgun Wedding

Seriously? Not that Jon needs defending for god sakes, but you're 14 and you debating tools with a master, licensed mechanic with his own business who earns his livelihood with his tools? Seriously?


Dude....this is not a fight that can be won, nor is there any point to winning it. Just sayin'. Ease up on the stick and level out.

I have a pair of Channel-Lock snap-ring pliers myself, are they Snap-On quality? No. Would I like a Snap-on? Yes. Will I buy one? No. Do I use my tools for my livelihood? No. Is Craftsman good enough for guys like me? Yes. Would Snap-On be better? Yes. Would I tell the difference? Probably. Do I care? No.

I'm hungry. I thought there was popcorn here.

+1

[Sam Mac]

Originally Posted by CubCadet129

And pics of random stuff that you "work" on doesn't mean you know tools.

CubCadet129
Here's the deal we all get that your what 14-15 years old. PLEASE don't take this the wrong way because young guys like you are the future of this country, the gang bangers, drugies and the rest of the useless crap that the school systems are turning out will never be able to deal with running this country. Guys like me will be long gone, it's going to be up to people of your generation to deal with the real world. We old farts are not your enemy, we are here to teach you as our elders taught us. Yeah at your age we knew it all until we figured out we knew nothing. I made some comments in this thread http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...t=36972&page=2

#22 that you may also want to read.

[jimbob200521]

Originally Posted by CubCadet129

And pics of random stuff that you "work" on doesn't mean you know tools.

This comment...needs no comment.

Originally Posted by CubCadet129

I am only 14 but have been buying tools when I was 5. That is nine years. I have some of my grandpas craftsmans and they work great still. I have about 2000 dollars worth of tools ranging from Milwaukee to craftsman to blue point to Pittsburgh. Also, craftsman is now made in China, but so are some snapon products.

You've been buying tools since you were five? Oh yeah? Well I've been using them since I was 4!!

Point is, you probably do have more experience and tools than 90% of the kids today do at your age. You could probably out wrench them even on your worst of days! But guess what; people like John, Sam, and many many others have the same "tool history" you do but also have an additional 10, 20, 30+ years on you. That means they have more experience, more knowledge, and have probably gone through more tools than you have ever owned figuring out what's good and what's not. Nobody is trying to insult you. Like Sam said, we're here to help

Originally Posted by Shotgun Wedding

Seriously? Not that Jon needs defending for god sakes, but you're 14 and you debating tools with a master, licensed mechanic with his own business who earns his livelihood with his tools? Seriously?


Dude....this is not a fight that can be won, nor is there any point to winning it. Just sayin'. Ease up on the stick and level out.

I have a pair of Channel-Lock snap-ring pliers myself, are they Snap-On quality? No. Would I like a Snap-on? Yes. Will I buy one? No. Do I use my tools for my livelihood? No. Is Craftsman good enough for guys like me? Yes. Would Snap-On be better? Yes. Would I tell the difference? Probably. Do I care? No.

I'm hungry. I thought there was popcorn here.

Point well made, good sir

Originally Posted by red56turbo

This right here is the BEST comment on this subject I've read so far.
Kudos Ryan!!!!

Everyone has different knowledge levels depending on what they do and how old they are. My oldest brother is a mechanic with thirty years of experience and prolly has spent north of $40,000 on tools over the years. Snap-on. Not my cup of tea, but it works for him.

CubCadet129, use/buy what works for you. Good to have the younger generation in our hobby. Hopefully every teen that joins here doesn't get run off.

Hope everyone else feels better for raking a 14 year old over the coals. I think he did pretty darn good standing up for himself.

Now what was the original topic before is derailed and blew up?

Thank you! And I was also wondering the same thing!! It's an old post from last year that somehow got dredged up and turned into a lively debate that is quickly going to become a locked thread. At this point, I'm popping a bag of popcorn and awaiting the conclusion.

Originally Posted by Sam Mac

CubCadet129
Here's the deal we all get that your what 14-15 years old. PLEASE don't take this the wrong way because young guys like you are the future of this country, the gang bangers, drugies and the rest of the useless crap that the school systems are turning out will never be able to deal with running this country. Guys like me will be long gone, it's going to be up to people of your generation to deal with the real world. We old farts are not your enemy, we are here to teach you as our elders taught us. Yeah at your age we knew it all until we figured out we knew nothing. I made some comments in this thread http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...t=36972&page=2

#22 that you may also want to read.

+2 to this post.