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Old 02-09-2015, 11:07 PM
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Default Oil leak on my 1864

My 1864 has a major oil leak, which I believe is coming from behind the electric clutch. From what I understand I need to remove the clutch to get to the seal. Pretty simple task. My problem is I'm just not sure what seal I need. I think I have found the part. Attached is a parts breakdown of what I think I need (#5) and my engine tag. I also included a photo of my engine, it shows a pretty oily side. The oil puddles under the front of the engine which is what led me to believe it was the seal. If anyone has another idea please let me know.
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:13 PM
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Common problem. I'm sure it's the seal. In the parts book, it's listed as the "rear seal" even though it appears to be the front, it is actually the rear of the motor. By all rights, they are installed backwards.
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:20 PM
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Common problem. I'm sure it's the seal. In the parts book, it's listed as the "rear seal" even though it appears to be the front, it is actually the rear of the motor. By all rights, they are installed backwards.
I second this. I posted a how to in the tech section on that exact engine. Someone will have to post a link or go find it as I'm on my phone right now
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:22 PM
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The diagram that I have does not call it a rear seal, just an oil seal. Does the picture show the correct side?
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:32 PM
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No, that's the wrong pic. You need the one labeled "Oil Pan". Part number is KH-25-032-06-S. The pic you posted is the flywheel end.

Here's a link to the thread that Ryan (Jimbob) did. It's in the "Technical" section under "Tech Tips": http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=33411
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:35 PM
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http://www.cubcadet-parts-direct.com...0-A/0030800039

#16 on this page. You can put 2 seals in there. It should keep it from leaking as quickly next time.
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I don't like double sealing them. Just puts two wear grooves in the crank. If there is a groove already, just put the new seal in a little deeper so it isn't tracking in the groove. Really no need for 2 seals. One, correctly installed and not running in a groove will hold. As a note, if you get the rubber coated seal from Kohler, install it dry. (No sealer on the OD of the seal.)
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Wow, I knew I would get the help I needed.Thanks. Any thoughts to the oil on the side of the engine. Do I have a couple leaks? Or just a mess from the front seal?
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Good point, didn't really think about it like that.
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Honestly.... I think your rear seal is also leaking. I'd pull the motor, take all the panels off, and the flywheel. That way you can clean it up good. You'll know right away if the rear seal is leaking when you remove the flywheel. If they are both leaking, I'd be checking the crankcase vent. Make sure it is working. Also, the valve covers are prone to leaks. Check those out while you have it out and apart. Seen a few that the bolts were loose. You could unscrew them with your fingers.
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