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Old 10-04-2016, 06:51 PM
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You gotta stop using the lawn mower words!!!

In my best Dr. McCoy voice-"Damn it Jim, these are garden tractors!"





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Old 10-04-2016, 07:06 PM
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I would think if you were trying to level loose dirt or gravel, the mid mount would be the way to go.

Rear/front mount blades bob up/down like a blue gill cork on short wheel base tractors, even big ones.

The center mount would give your best shot at leveling. That is the reason road graders have the blade mounted mid ship.
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Old 10-04-2016, 07:36 PM
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Road graders also have a really long wheelbase unlike a garden tractor.
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Old 10-04-2016, 07:42 PM
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Road graders also have a really long wheelbase unlike a garden tractor.
That's true but the whole weight of the grader pushes on the blade to keep the graded surface level. Unlike a back or front mounted blade that every time a front or rear wheel goes over a bump, it changes the grade.
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Old 10-04-2016, 08:59 PM
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That's true but the whole weight of the grader pushes on the blade to keep the graded surface level. Unlike a back or front mounted blade that every time a front or rear wheel goes over a bump, it changes the grade.

Kind of....

You can lift the front tires off the ground with a grader if you don't control it right, so it actually is limited. Yes, it pushes down, but not really all that hard. It's not the weight that makes it level, it is the length of the machine.

Adam is right, the very short wheelbase of a GT will limit it's ability to level. Even though it is mid mounted and the operator will have more control, it will still move up/down as the tractor rolls over terrain because of the short wheelbase. A grader does the job it does because it is sooooo long.

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A member on here has one for a JD that I have looked at. It had quite a few adjustments built into it. As I recall, you can "roll" (pitch of the plow) it so you can change how hard it cuts in. It will twist/turn and go up and down.
A grader has side shift, blade roll (pitch), left/right level, rotate.... and many more functions. The more of those functions you can incorporate, the better it will do. Blade pitch is a big deal. If you can, add that and it will make a huge difference in it's ability to cut or level.
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Road graders also have a really long wheelbase unlike a garden tractor.
Yes they do! And for the record we have hung two 4020's to this one and stopped them both. You ain't ever tested your patience until you are one of the 2 guys operating this outfit! I know the Cadet can't come close to what a scrape blade behind a tractor can (or this road grader), but it would sure be nice if I could do minor touch up work with it.
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You gotta stop using the lawn mower words!!!

In my best Dr. McCoy voice-"Damn it Jim, these are garden tractors!"





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Sorry but a Cub Cadet is a lawn mower (even my Super's), a Cub is an almost worthless toy, a Super A up to a 140 is a tractor for gardening or raising row crops. Real tractors have live PTO and hydraulics with draft control. I know my thinking is way different than most folks on here but when you are part of the soybean planting crew at the ripe old age of 11, well you understand real quick what heavy duty machinery is. The best I can offer here is to agree to disagree.
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Sorry but a Cub Cadet is a lawn mower (even my Super's), a Cub is an almost worthless toy, a Super A up to a 140 is a tractor for gardening or raising row crops. Real tractors have live PTO and hydraulics with draft control. I know my thinking is way different than most folks on here but when you are part of the soybean planting crew at the ripe old age of 11, well you understand real quick what heavy duty machinery is. The best I can offer here is to agree to disagree.

Sorry John, I speak fluent smartass and was just trying to be funny.

I too grew up on a farm with "real tractors" and now I just garden with the garden tractors and mow with my lawn mowers.

Yes, we can agree to disagree.



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Old 10-05-2016, 09:54 AM
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I have never seen a (road) grader with a blade mounted on the front or rear. Always in the middle regardless of how long it is.
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Yes, the working dirt blade is in the center. They do have scarifiers for the front or rear. They do also make blades, or plows for the front to push snow. V plows on graders for snow removal are common in rural areas.
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