1961 Cub International Cadet restored

[DoubleO7]

Originally Posted by jbrewer

Yup. Pretty sure there was a post here that showed a pic of them on the trailer heading to the customer, but that's the last I recall seeing of them.

The thing about PC and the finish on the one here (which is indeed beautiful) is that they were never that good out of the factory. There's a pic on the web of a guy shooting IH parts from an overhead crane with a spray gun in hand. There was NOT a lot of high tech process control in the paint. They were tractors after all. I doubt a lot of customers would have been upset of most of it had been painted with a roller!

LOL, yea that and OSHA and the EPA were not around to outlaw the easy to lay down good paint either.

[zippy1]

Originally Posted by NoFlyZone

Sorry J-Mech, I didn't mean to ruffle your feathers. I find your comment rude and meant to put me down. It was just my opinion. I won't bother you any more.

Hey, don't sweat the petty things, just pet the sweaty things. When I was a nOOb, I paid more, and traveled further than I would for the same tractor today. And remember, the seller can ask for any amount he chooses. But that don't mean he's going to get it...

[kwlfinger]

Originally Posted by Cub Cadet 123

I would want it to be a recoil start with the correct muffler and a 3 point on it, too. In all fairness, he asked us to put a price on it for "what it is worth" and no one really has. Probably out of fear of insulting. Ok, I will put a price on what I think it is worth and I certainly hope that this is not an insult, as that is not the spirit in which I intended it. Unfortunately, they are never worth all of the TLC that we give them and all of the meticulous hours we spend with our attention to details. There is no doubt the cub is certainly a very well done restoration and certainly would be an honorable piece to anyone's collection. I would place a value on it right now of somewhere between $1200 to $1500. Right now it is just an original and looks like it is lacking purpose without any piece of equipment with it. The only "extra" feature is the round fenders. Headlights would be a very nice feature to see on it and would make it seem more nostalgic of that era. If it had some other items to accompany it, like it needs a timed deck, or a Mott on the front, or a front original blade, or a 3 point, or a hydraulic lift, or a tiller, or any one of the many other attachments with it, of equal quality restoration, then the price would go up accordingly. The more rare the attachment, the more the price would increase.

The price I quoted is where I would be as a buyer. I would expect the seller to adjust the price a little to allow a little wiggle room for dickering, but still keep it close to where the seller is to make it seem within grasp, so as a seller I would price it somewhere between $1400 to $1700. Well, that is just my advice. Now that I have put that out there, perhaps others will chime in and offer their opinions and then you can weigh in on our advice.

Cub Cadet 123

I really appreciate the info. Thank you for addressing my question. As I said I no nothing about these and just trying to get info from people that do. Once again, thank you!

[J-Mech]

So the price drops to $2000. Glad to see you listened.

[olds45512]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

So the price drops to $2000. Glad to see you listened.

That's probably about where I'd start to, leaves plenty of room for negotiation.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by olds45512

That's probably about where I'd start to, leaves plenty of room for negotiation.

And plenty of potential buyers to pass right over.

Why do people think when pricing things you have to leave $500 or more in "negotiating" room. On a $1200-$1500 item, $100-$200 over the intended mark is plenty. Otherwise the price is a turnoff. I for one hate when I have something for sale and a potential buyer assumes my price with "OBO" means I have the price $1000 or more than it should be.

Example:
I have a 1983 Goldwing for sale right now. Prices for them are all over the place. I looked at others online, talked to some guys, then priced mine. I priced it at $2500, hoping to get $22/2300. I'd take $2000. (All well within range of it's value. I have $2300 in it.) I put it on c-list with at least 10 pictures. I gave a DETAILED description of everything about the bike, and the repairs that I have recently made. Some guy messages me. Doesn't ask to come see the bike, just wants to know if I'll take $1500 for it. No. No, I wont. See, it's that easy. Just, say no if you get an offer you don't like.

I'd really like to write an "article" on this topic. I buy quite a bit online. C-list, ebay, Facebook. I've got stuff for sale too. People are terrible at negotiating now. And, greed is real......

[olds45512]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

And plenty of potential buyers to pass right over.

Why do people think when pricing things you have to leave $500 or more in "negotiating" room. On a $1200-$1500 item, $100-$200 over the intended mark is plenty. Otherwise the price is a turnoff. I for one hate when I have something for sale and a potential buyer assumes my price with "OBO" means I have the price $1000 or more than it should be.

Example:
I have a 1983 Goldwing for sale right now. Prices for them are all over the place. I looked at others online, talked to some guys, then priced mine. I priced it at $2500, hoping to get $22/2300. I'd take $2000. (All well within range of it's value. I have $2300 in it.) I put it on c-list with at least 10 pictures. I gave a DETAILED description of everything about the bike, and the repairs that I have recently made. Some guy messages me. Doesn't ask to come see the bike, just wants to know if I'll take $1500 for it. No. No, I wont. See, it's that easy. Just, say no if you get an offer you don't like.

I'd really like to write an "article" on this topic. I buy quite a bit online. C-list, ebay, Facebook. I've got stuff for sale too. People are terrible at negotiating now. And, greed is real......

Just as you pointed out, the internet is full of people that want to offer you half what you're asking, with the price set high their offer of half isn't really that far from your real number. If the price is set at $2000 and they offer $1000 then you can come back with $1600, at that point even if they come back and offer $1200-$1300 then you can make a deal. If I have an item I want $500 for then I generally list it for $700, if I list it for $600 then everybody wants to offer $400, seems people just can't live with themselves unless they talk you down $200+. It also give me room to drop the price every couple weeks. I don't want to turn this into a back and forth argument, everybody has their own opinions on how to price things and how to sell them, believe me I don't have an issue selling stuff and making money. The bottom line is that when someone owns something they have the right to ask whatever price for it they want just like potential buyers have the right to pass on an item they feel is priced to high.

[DoubleO7]

It sells for the price paid if sold at all.

Matters not what others price their stuff at, their choice, their time, their right.

Get over it and LET IT GO.

[J-Mech]

I don't disagree with you Tim. You are correct. I also agree that there are many different views on how to make money by selling, but they boil down to two basic thoughts. 1.) Sell a lot of things at a lower price and make money. Or, 2.) Sell few items at a higher price and make money.

The thing that I don't get about this thread is the OP states he "bought" the tractor off a buddy in financial need, in order to help him out. He then says that now he wants to sell it and "give back" to him. That's odd. The OP clearly has no idea on it's value, so how much was "paid" for it? OP asks for advice on price, but only kind of listens. OP plans to sell the tractor (again?) and give whatever he gets over what he paid back to the PO??? Why not just have offered to help him sell it to begin with? The whole story seems odd, and the price makes me think there is something else at play. All the while OCC will be the site he spouts as the "source" for his price. This is why I hate giving people a value. Besides..... what do we really know about the tractor other than it looks really pretty? We never got the SN either. Still could be a 3 digit and worth a higher price.. We don't know...... We haven't even discussed what we can see to know it's an early SN. In none of the pictures can we see the spindles, or have a good shot of the front axle. All this is just throwing up red flags to me....

[Alvy]

Jon not that it matters but I agree with you on some of this. I guess I’m over sensitive living in Florida and have been a victim of price gouging during the hurricanes. It can go both ways, over charging for things and the flip side is low balling just for the sake of low balling even when something is already a deal and people are then taking advantage as a buyer. The bottom line is people need to be smart and do their homework when selling or buying so they don’t screw someone or get screwed which will then falsely inflate or deflate prices for others in the future.

I will also say that there are indicators of that O being early or at least being put together with early parts. The seat, dash, generator, gen bracket, and frame are early. I’d like to know serial as well.