Transmission trouble - Page 6

J-Mech · #51 07-08-2018, 01:57 AM

Back to the trans:

I still haven't gotten it all back together, due to paying jobs and my kids taking precedent.
I did get the new pump, and got all my parts swapped over to it, and it installed today. When checking the pump to the new converter, it felt much better than the first pump did. Rotor was not tight, slid right into the converter like it should and turned like it should. Not tight like the other one did. I think this one will be just fine. All I have to do is break down the valve body again, even though I think it's just for peace of mind more than necessity, and clean it. Obviously, put in back on, and close up the trans and install it. I *might* do it tomorrow. Maybe. I might do it Monday. I'll let you guys know as soon as it's in and running.

CubDieselFan · #52 07-08-2018, 09:04 AM

I am glad you answered #6, it got my attention because my 98 Chevy is doing that very thing.

ol'George · #53 07-08-2018, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech

Back to the trans:

I still haven't gotten it all back together, due to paying jobs and my kids taking precedent.
I did get the new pump, and got all my parts swapped over to it, and it installed today. When checking the pump to the new converter, it felt much better than the first pump did. Rotor was not tight, slid right into the converter like it should and turned like it should. Not tight like the other one did. I think this one will be just fine. All I have to do is break down the valve body again, even though I think it's just for peace of mind more than necessity, and clean it. Obviously, put in back on, and close up the trans and install it. I *might* do it tomorrow. Maybe. I might do it Monday. I'll let you guys know as soon as it's in and running.

Good luck Jon,
"do-overs"are never exciting, fun or profitable.

Sometimes "tight" isn't what it's cracked up to be

DieselDoctor · #54 07-08-2018, 10:23 AM

Sounds like you're on the home stretch now Jon.

J-Mech · #55 07-08-2018, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ol'George

Good luck Jon,
"do-overs"are never exciting, fun or profitable.

Sometimes "tight" isn't what it's cracked up to be

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Originally Posted by DieselDoctor

Sounds like you're on the home stretch now Jon.

This has been the week of do-overs for me!

Had to put 3 master cylinders on a Dodge before I got a good one. Shipped a motor out, and the guy (not me) put the return shipping label on it and it was delivered back to me (that one really pissed me off). Replanting all my green beans because they drowned, or got choked out from weed pressure because of all the rain. Grrrrrrr. Not a good week.

I think I'm on the home stretch now Stan, but I thought that last week too. No expectations until it moves under it's own power again. Ugh. What a deal.

cooperino · #56 07-08-2018, 12:24 PM

Jon, You may have said in another post I missed or something. Did you end up getting any replacements under warranty? I know there was a whole ordeal with your buddy and all.

J-Mech · #57 07-08-2018, 01:31 PM

I got another pump and a gasket kit under warranty, but paid for the converter. When I get it all together, I'm hoping to take the parts up to my friend and get it all covered, but I'm not holding my breath. Initially, the converter is almost $300, with shipping and core charge.

green 4 acres · #58 07-08-2018, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech

Well.... I'm not going to answer (all) the questions. Although, I did consider it. Just for my own entertainment.

But decided against it, but not out of anything other than some of them are really vague. Take 13 for example. Parts update to what? We talking parts as in parts supply? Or parts as in a component update to a vehicle? Very vague question. I'll answer a couple though.

Or how about #6? Because that answer will vary depending on what model of trans you are diagnosing. On a Chrysler (Dodge) trans for example, (lets use the 42RE-48RE) from the factory the transmission does not circulate any oil into the T/C (or really anywhere for that matter) when the vehicle is in park, but it does in neutral (and all other manual valve positions). So, it isn't uncommon at all to have a drain back issue after sitting a few days. Once it starts, the vehicle won't move right away when moved to drive or reverse. Rather than go tearing into the trans to fix something that Chrysler says there is no fix for, I'd just file off the corner of the land on the manual valve so that the pump lubes in park, and it will fix the issue. It only takes a few seconds of run time to fill the converter back up, and you no longer have the hesitation. I file every valve on ever Dodge trans I do so that it cures the issue. Very common issue on a Chrysler.

Now, if it's a Chevrolet trans, different story. If it is losing fluid in the converter, then it could be a number of things from a leaking front seal, to a blown o-ring on the input shaft, to a weak pump to an air leak on the suction side of the pump, or even low fluid.

And I may not have even understood the question.... Like I said, some are vague.

Question 4: Seriously? This thread is about the overhaul of an automatic, and you are asking what the trans cooler lines are? I mean, I'm assuming you just pulled the questions at random, but you could have gotten some more difficult ones.

Question 14: Now see, there is a good question. It wasn't vague, and it's a reasonable one, albeit a pretty basic knowledge question, but I'll answer it with a short answer. A 3rd differential in the transfer case. That good enough?

Question 11: I'm going to look for vacuum leaks first. Then I'm going to check the MAF against the O2 and see how they compare, then check fuel pressure. O2 codes are usually just indicative of another issue.

No, I think you are the only one that wants to know my thoughts on them. So, I humored you on a couple.

WOW you are scary as a trans mech 1 answer 50% correct
wonder how you customers would feel about that

Auto tech test

1 what is the first measurement you should take when rebuilding a auto trans ?
the input shaft endplay , some may say the TQCon bushing ,but most feel that.... you should have answered this it plays a big part in diag too on tear down and install

2 what are the last two biggest innovations in design in auto trans?
really don't know this ! study ,you do not know much
they were from the 80's but were game changers
3 why did the manufacturers only recommend using their ATF in the mid 90s on ? the torque converter dampning clutch ,can wear early with out the exact friction modifier additive

4 What do the metal lines from the trans to the radiator go to/do ?
it is not a cooler, its a _______/ cooler ...if it was 15 below zero what would the trans need the heat exchanger is in the aft part of the rad , what temp is that

5 what is a good/easy way to determine if the trans pump is working sufficiently ? 1 easy way ,you do it every day

6 if a auto trans ,after sitting for a couple of days ,up one start up, has no pull ,then after running a min, or two seems to drive good , what part should be looked at for replacement ?

the torque converter bushing , will if worn excessively , the TQ con will drain down in the pan , must have never worked on mopar/jeep

7 On a carb, what is (after 1973 ) the correct way to adjust the idle mixture screws setting ?
my trick question ...anybody
8 what replaced the speedo gear drives on many auto trans , and how does it work?

9 what is the best way to be very accurate when doing a compression test , under what conditions ?

10 what is the name of the system standard after 06 ( on every car, cycle, watercraft etc.,) that prevents theft and what can it do ?
Immobilizer system its a $6 chip in every ECU/pcm

11 if you have a engine to lean trouble code ( I don’t know # it off hand ) what is likely or the first thing to check ?
you missed it unless you meant vacuum leak in the exhaust ...yes there is vacuum in the exhaust , I just blew many minds here. it pulls in air outside and causes the o2 to read lean

12 describe the EVAP system workings... in your words no answer ?

13 what was the parts update in early 2000s ...what can you do and cant ?
ask a dealer parts guy imports Nissan ,Subaru, Mitsu Toyota , had it ford too
manuf. were tired off salvage parts being put into newer cars so the numbers changed with very slight differences that gave headaches to the installer .020 here and such may go in but caused problems , noise etc.

14 whats the difference between the AWD and 4wd components
center diff with a viscous coupling

seems like these relatively easy know questions ( I knew them by heart) are over your head

DieselDoctor · #59 07-08-2018, 05:18 PM

Fishing for an angry response? Guess what nobody gives a shit.

cooperino · #60 07-08-2018, 05:20 PM

Green 4 acres..
You knew these questions In your head likely because it was your really tough final exam for your students.. most of these questions are irevelant to the daily mechanic turning wrenches. These are book questions. Years ago at the truck stop I worked at a kid fresh out of diesel school questioned me.. asked me what's the torque spec on a 8v92 Detroit head... I had done several of them but I had also done cats, Cummins, volvos, etc etc.. told him hell if I know.. the next one that comes in I would likelyook in the manual.. no reason to memorize it. He chuckled and said oh.. big diesel mechanic you are.. the next day I told him the frieghliner at the pump sounded like it was running rich and he should go check the choke adjustment... He went right out to to the truck to do just that. You see where I'm going with this?