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Old 08-01-2018, 06:37 PM
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It's likely that valve will stick once the engine warms up. Should have pulled it and cleaned the valve stem and guide. Rust and gunk will wear the guide out.
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It's likely that valve will stick once the engine warms up. Should have pulled it and cleaned the valve stem and guide. Rust and gunk will wear the guide out.
I may just do that. The head is going to get pulled again anyway for a new head gasket and painting the brackets. For now, I need to be able to run it enough to check out the hydrostat after it gets an oil change.
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I may just do that. The head is going to get pulled again anyway for a new head gasket and painting the brackets. For now, I need to be able to run it enough to check out the hydrostat after it gets an oil change.
The hydro will be fine. Use a Cub Cadet filter, or a Wix 51410, or Napa 1410. Those are the 3 correct filters.

Make sure to plane the head before permanent installation.

John is right, the hoses really only need to be single or double braid, but hoses are pretty cheap. If you need a new pump, that's where the expense will be. Or if the cylinders leak, which is likely.
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The hydro will be fine. Use a Cub Cadet filter, or a Wix 51410, or Napa 1410. Those are the 3 correct filters.

Make sure to plane the head before permanent installation.

John is right, the hoses really only need to be single or double braid, but hoses are pretty cheap. If you need a new pump, that's where the expense will be. Or if the cylinders leak, which is likely.
Single "braid" which is considered one wire it is for suction only. 2 wire would be for pressure up to 3400 PSI. Both hoses are available from 3/16 to 2". You could use 2 wire hose for both suction and pressure lines but 1 wire is cheaper and fine for the suction side. Figure out what ends you need and check out this site. Local hydraulic shops make most of their money on hose assemblies and tend to over charge .

https://www.discounthydraulichose.co...blies_s/74.htm
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Curious as to the make and model of the loader.
Hose may be cheap but the fittings are not.
I wound up with close to $350 for complete setup new hose and all new fittings for my 2149 DanCo.
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Curious as to the make and model of the loader.
Hose may be cheap but the fittings are not.
I wound up with close to $350 for complete setup new hose and all new fittings for my 2149 DanCo.
Check out the link I posted. I have saved thousands upon thousands by using them. Most of what will be needed for that loader will be female #4 and #6 JIC fittings. Thats about the cheapest fittings out there. Nothing crazy on that set up.
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I wound up with close to $350 for complete setup new hose and all new fittings for my 2149 DanCo.
That seems excessive for no more than it is. Where did you get them made?


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CMost of what will be needed for that loader will be female #4 and #6 JIC fittings.
Really. So you have one, or have rebuilt one?
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Curious as to the make and model of the loader.
Hose may be cheap but the fittings are not.
I wound up with close to $350 for complete setup new hose and all new fittings for my 2149 DanCo.
Here's a pic of the loader nameplate. I'm really not too worried about the hydraulics yet, since there are so many things to do on the 123 and the parts are easily sourced. The pump rebuild is more concerning, but I haven't even researched parts for that.
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Maybe you guys should buy stock in Kroil penetrating oil, because I've been using the heck out of it on this tractor. The hydro lever was frozen down by the steering column, but a good soaking and letting it sit overnight and it came unstuck.

The quality of the materials is pretty awesome on these, although it seems like a puzzle to take things apart. It seems like you have to take 5 things apart to get 1 out. The steering column assembly (?) sure has a lot of bolts and parts for as simple as it looks.

Right now i'm leaning towards a total disassembly so I can do a better job of painting.

It also needs new tires, as the old ones are dry rotted pretty bad. They were filled for weight and are leaking all over the shop floor.

It's surprising to me that the engine oil looks like it was just changed before getting parked, and the Hydro fluid looks great. Of course, they are getting changed as they are old and who knows how much water is in them. At least they aren't black as tar.
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Single "braid" which is considered one wire it is for suction only.
I'm not talking about suction hose. It's not "braided". I'm talking about single wire braid hose. It's good for up to 3000 PSI.

Like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Aeroquip-FC30...gle+Wire+Braid


Once again, you think I have no idea what I'm talking about.
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