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Old 08-07-2018, 03:30 PM
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I agree with J, lube the bendix shaft. Do it to dads 1811 about every 2 years. For whatever reason it seems to hang up (or in this case, in) just about the time for spring oil and filter change/blower removal.
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Old 08-07-2018, 03:35 PM
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I agree with J, lube the bendix shaft. Do it to dads 1811 about every 2 years. For whatever reason it seems to hang up (or in this case, in) just about the time for spring oil and filter change/blower removal.
Every 2 years I can see.. 3 new starters within a few months tho?
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Old 08-07-2018, 05:34 PM
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Ok, here it is- I got my meter out and rang out the battery cables. I looked at the harness as it went under the cowling against the frame, and while some of the electrical tape was worn so I could see the wires going to the head lights, is was just the electrical tape that showed any real wear. The battery before I started this was at 12.52 volts, and the tractor had been sitting since Sunday. I pulled the starter, got a small screwdriver and some 3 in 1 oil. I put a couple drops on the front of the shaft, advanced the gear with the screw driver, and put a couple drops on the back side of the shaft. I worked the gear back and forth with the screw driver. Reassembled. The tractor fired up first try. I got out my meter again and measured 13.92 volts while running. I shut off and re started the tractor 5 times. If the problem returns in a short amount of time, I'll say this wasn't the solution. but....until then. Thank you all for your help and kind advice helping me keep my tractor running.
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Old 08-07-2018, 06:33 PM
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How about this test.....???

What is your voltage, as measured with a VOM or DVM, at the starter (Large Terminal to ground).....while the engine is turning over..??

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Old 08-07-2018, 07:21 PM
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I will try to get that measure tomorrow.
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Old 08-08-2018, 04:51 PM
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How about this test.....???

What is your voltage, as measured with a VOM or DVM, at the starter (Large Terminal to ground).....while the engine is turning over..??

11 volts at Starter. Forgot to choke, then 11 dropped to 10.8 and started. 14.2 while running at starter. Because the outfit I bought the starters from told me to just keep the previous starter (presumed defective) I look forward to putting a little oil on that one, and installing it to see what happens. I'll post results
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Old 08-08-2018, 07:07 PM
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then 11 dropped to 10.8 and started.
You have a "Voltage Drop"....!!!

I would "highly suggest" that you seriously look at the power that is feeding the Starter, both positive and negative (ground) connections.

All cables, connection points, and terminals have to be in good working condition, with no corrosion, rusted, corroded, burnt, or loose connection(s). All things needs to be clean, bright and tight.
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Old 08-08-2018, 07:28 PM
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It's all very clean. I will check the ground, but as I said previously, stored indoors. Thanks for your advice.
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:11 PM
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You have a "Voltage Drop"....!!!
Since he didn't post what the battery voltage was, there is no way to know that.
If you are going by the 11v at the starter, that looks pretty good to me.
10.8 is good too if 11 was nominal voltage.

No way from the info given can you say there is a problematic voltage drop.
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:43 PM
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Just a minor correction. It is 2 starters in a couple months. One of which has just started the tractor repeatedly. I don't know that oil is the solution to the problem, but the result I have currently is a starting tractor. While I haven't done extensive work on it, I do enjoy learning from you all. I've worked on production machinery most of my life, and still enjoy it wrenching and keeping them running.
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