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Old 08-11-2019, 03:27 PM
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Default Contemplating plowing, need help

Due to enjoying plowing and plow days but always relying on someone else's tractor to run, I'm throwing around the idea of mounting a plow behind the 147 and taking that. However, I've got a few general questions. I've already read the sticky page on plowing here and google has been my friend so far. I've been around plowing a bit so I get the terminology (coulter, furrow, pitch, point, moldboard etc) yet I'm unfamiliar with GT and sleeve hitch attachments.

Things I have that I know will be beneficial:
-23 degree ag tires
-Spring assist on the armstrong lift
-A set of wheel weights
-Upper and lower '3 point hitch' sleeve hitch parts to the rear of the machine

What I would need before I could do anything:
-Sleeve hitch adapter
-brinly upper link
-Plow

What I do have in place is a rear mounted 90 degree angle gearbox for a tiller, so I have the bottom U shaped piece that the sleeve hitch adapter mounts to. I understand that xtreme makes a sleeve hitch adapter and pin that I could get to leave that in place (minus the drawbar which is an easy dismount,.) However, I thought that this was discouraged because the gear box hangs lower and can bottom out on the furrow wall, AND that if I want to remove the gearbox prior to attaching the sleeve adapter I'd have to use slightly shorter bolts in the rear end cover to eliminate the risk of potentially cracking the casting with the existing bolts being too long. So what do you think should I do? Brinly or Xtreme adapter and keep the gearbox in place?

Random questions:
-Floating straps or rigid, and why? I know I can set the lift handle to float if need be, and adjust depth stop using the slider depth stop on the top of the frame next to the lift lever. Nearly everything implement driven is 'float'; what about plowing?
-One wheel weight on each side, or is better to double up on the land side? (I only have two)
-How do I determine buying a brinly plow if it's worn out, specifically the point area?
-Which size would be best? 8, 10 inch etc?
-Does the plow mount rigid with the pin and the bolts to the rear of the adapter, or does it just attach via a pin and allow to trail the tractor?


Thanks for all of my questions.
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Old 08-11-2019, 07:57 PM
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Floating straps or rigid, and why? I know I can set the lift handle to float if need be, and adjust depth stop using the slider depth stop on the top of the frame next to the lift lever. Nearly everything implement driven is 'float'; what about plowing?
I use floating straps. You need some float in case you hit a hard object (big rock). You will need a helper spring if you have manual or electric lift.

One wheel weight on each side, or is better to double up on the land side? (I only have two)
I use one on each side. I would consider adding more weight-fluid to the rear tires.

-How do I determine buying a brinly plow if it's worn out, specifically the point area?
There should be a gap behind the point.

Which size would be best? 8, 10 inch etc?
10 inch plow is what I use.
Another thing to consider is your rear tires. A good rule is this:
8 inch plow-6 inch wide tires
10 inch plow-use up to 8.50 wide tires
12 inch plow-use up to 12.00 wide tires
The right rear tire needs to fit in the furrow. Too wide will compact the previous plowed soil. It can cause drive line issues depending on how aggressive you drive(been there-done that. You never know when you get behind someone plowing with an 8 inch plow at a plowday

Does the plow mount rigid with the pin and the bolts to the rear of the adapter, or does it just attach via a pin and allow to trail the tractor?
I have some play in the plow-plow hitch.

I know someone who has 2 ten inch brinly sleeve hitch plows for sale. PM me if anyone interested.
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Forgot to talk about tiller adapter on your Cub Cadet while plowing.

My Dad leaves the tiller adapter on while moldboard plowing. Sometimes the lower pulley will have some soil in it. Clearance issues aren't a problem unless you are following someone plowing more than 6 inches deep. The lower sleeve hitch adapter arms were lengthen.

Ideal plow depth is 1/2 the plow width (example 10 inch plow should be only plowing 5 inches deep).
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I make a sleeve hitch adapter that clears the tiller mount.

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Forgot to talk about tiller adapter on your Cub Cadet while plowing.

My Dad leaves the tiller adapter on while moldboard plowing. Sometimes the lower pulley will have some soil in it. Clearance issues aren't a problem unless you are following someone plowing more than 6 inches deep. The lower sleeve hitch adapter arms were lengthen.

Ideal plow depth is 1/2 the plow width (example 10 inch plow should be only plowing 5 inches deep).
Thanks for the info. I knew you’d know for sure. 👍🏻☺️
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I make a sleeve hitch adapter that clears the tiller mount.

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What does it look like? Do you include the hardware, longer top lift pin etc? What do you charge for one of those? Thanks
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What does it look like? Do you include the hardware, longer top lift pin etc? What do you charge for one of those? Thanks
https://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/...ad.php?t=20875

With both sets of lift straps, an extended lift pin and I can include hardware for $150 shipped.

I've been making my design of sleeve hitches for over 7 years and nobody has let me know they've bent one of my design.
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Found a picture of the gap I talk about behind the plow point and the correct way to measure a plow. This is an 12 inch plow.
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With both sets of lift straps, an extended lift pin and I can include hardware for $150 shipped.

I've been making my design of sleeve hitches for over 7 years and nobody has let me know they've bent one of my design.
https://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/...ad.php?t=19189


Ah. Seems as though I've asked you this years ago.
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Found a picture of the gap I talk about behind the plow point and the correct way to measure a plow. This is an 12 inch plow.
I have 23X10.5-12 tires, is a 10" plow good, or should I look for a 12"? I understand how to measure them.

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