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Old 03-25-2024, 07:52 PM
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Balance gears yes, in some of them, but not all.

The balance PLATE guys are referring to here is an aftermarket item.
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Old 02-18-2025, 08:37 PM
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Thought I would just update this thread.

Today I started on a home brew "Kirk Engines" crank balancing project on a K321 AS engine. I machined the crank lobe and made the weight plate. I'll get a few pics in a bit, just to save myself a thousand words.
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Old 02-23-2025, 12:01 AM
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So I got this project done and it wasn’t too bad. The worst part was tapping the 1/4” holes in that very hard cast lobe. It was slow, tedious and nerve wracking, expecting the tap to snap off in the crank at any instant. Next time I’ll definitely buy a solid carbide tap.

I had to add counter weights to balance the bare crank so I could spin it at a decent rpm in the lathe. That was done on the same homemade stand. Pretty easy and accurate too.

I used a 3/16” plate for the weight, which I knew would be too heavy, but the plan was to mill it down slowly to fine tunes the balance. I ended up taking .33” off the plate which took it from 100 grams to 80 grams. So in the end I’ll be adding three ounces to the crank to get to the recommended 50% balance factor.

It’ll be a few weeks before the engine is up and running, but I’m pretty curious to see if it makes a worthwhile difference.
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Old 02-23-2025, 12:05 AM
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Try this again to see if my pic will be oriented properly.
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Old 02-23-2025, 07:13 AM
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On the tap:
Its been my experience a tap made of high speed steel is more forgiving to twisting forces before breaking than a carbide tap.
Carbide stays sharp much longer than H. speed steel, but is more brittle.
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Old 02-23-2025, 02:21 PM
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...I'll be interested to hear how it works out...
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Old 02-23-2025, 05:03 PM
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Haha, yes, I've snapped a few taps off in my shop years and it's almost always more time consuming removing them then taking more time to start with!

If this engine responds well to the mod then I will pull the engine out of the 149 and do it too. I want to change the valve guides and re-ring it anyway, so not much more work to pull the crank. I'm of the impression that it shook or vibrated more after the rebuild a few years ago.
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