Question for a CC Guru

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by JUrbanik

Which CC model would you say is best for a front loader and backhoe conversion? I'm picking up a 1250 in a couple of weeks and have seen it done on that model but is there another that would be a better fit? My father and I have been wanting to purchase a smaller backhoe for a while now but we are both very limited on finances. So both of us thought that going this route might be the cheaper way to go and at the same time be a fun project to do together. Thanks

If I was doing it, I wouldn't put one on anything smaller than a SGT. Just me....

[sawdustdad]

I think the 1250 would be fine for a loader. If finances are tight, you might want to check the cost of a used loader against what it will cost you to convert a cub. You might be able to find one for less than the conversion cost, especially if the conversion entails purchase of a lot of new stuff...

Just curious, maybe someone can answer this (CADPlans?). If you had a ported rear end, could you take hydraulic fluid off the port and run the loader with that? Or not enough pressure/flow? That's just the output of the charge pump right?

[Yosemite Sam]

The FEL on my 122 has never caused the engine to "labor". I pick up and move 55 gallon barrels of oil with it regularly. On the occasion that I get the bucket under something that it won't pick up, the rear tires simply come off the ground. Running out of power, just isn't an issue.

However, I can see where a hoe could be a different story. If your pump created enough pressure and the tractor were anchored well and you hook something underground that simply won't move and you refused to let go of the handle... You may be able to get the governor in the engine to activate.

[sawdustdad]

My orange backhoe, upon encountering an immovable object either lifts the tractor off the ground or activates the hydraulic relief valves and just sits there and whines. It's 23 hp, and I'd say the only thing more HP will do is give you more gpm on the hydraulic pump to allow the backhoe to move faster while transferring soil out of the hole to an adjacent pile (and return). Theoretically, the cylinders, pump, and backhoe components are sized to optimize performance for whatever HP is available.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by sawdustdad

I think the 1250 would be fine for a loader. If finances are tight, you might want to check the cost of a used loader against what it will cost you to convert a cub. You might be able to find one for less than the conversion cost, especially if the conversion entails purchase of a lot of new stuff...

Just curious, maybe someone can answer this (CADPlans?). If you had a ported rear end, could you take hydraulic fluid off the port and run the loader with that? Or not enough pressure/flow? That's just the output of the charge pump right?

That pump doesn't have enough flow. Oh sure, it would do it. But it would be SLOW, and wouldn't pick up much. Max pressure on that pump is only about 600PSI

[CADplans]

Originally Posted by sawdustdad

Just curious, maybe someone can answer this (CADPlans?). If you had a ported rear end, could you take hydraulic fluid off the port and run the loader with that? Or not enough pressure/flow? That's just the output of the charge pump right?

I got a 149 with a charge pump powered loader, Sam Mac just watched a video of it in operation.

It ain't no Kubota, but, it is WAY better than an True Value Long Handle!!

It ain't too big, it ain't too small!!

Ask Sam Mac about it picking up a telephone pole!

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by CADplans

I got a 149 with a charge pump powered loader, Sam Mac just watched a video of it in operation.

It ain't no Kubota, but, it is WAY better than an True Value Long Handle!!

It ain't too big, it ain't too small!!

Ask Sam Mac about it picking up a telephone pole!

I'd like to see that! I really didn't think that it would even be worth making it run off the hydraulic system given how small the pump is. I had considered making a few hydraulic attachments, but was afraid after construction I wouldn't be happy with performance.

[CADplans]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

I'd like to see that! I really didn't think that it would even be worth making it run off the hydraulic system given how small the pump is. I had considered making a few hydraulic attachments, but was afraid after construction I wouldn't be happy with performance.

The video is available here;

http://www.cadplans.com/order.htm

Plans here;

https://shop.cadplans.com/cadloaders...model-507.html

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by CADplans

The video is available here;

http://www.cadplans.com/order.htm

Plans here;

https://shop.cadplans.com/cadloaders...model-507.html

Ok, maybe I'm missing it..... I don't see a video link on your first page. Did I miss something?

[CADplans]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

Ok, maybe I'm missing it..... I don't see a video link on your first page. Did I miss something?

I did not say link. The preview video near the bottom of the page. It is too long to upload.