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Old 10-19-2018, 07:25 PM
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Well said Sam, reminds me of a family who has an old uncle that everyone dislikes, but for some reason they cant stop listening to him, cause most the time he is right.
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You're confusing being rude and insulting with maturity.
If you (general term) research the social skills of someone with high intelligence, you’ll find they tend to have weak/poor social skills. They often come off as rude or arrogant (think Steve Jobs or Elon Musk). So the way Jonathan acts shows that he is a very intelligent person. Out of his thousands of posts, you can probably count on one hand the amount of times he was wrong about the topic. When he is wrong, he admits it. He even feels terrible when he gives someone incorrect information.

And yes, there are two sides to every story. His side goes like this: He has no idea why he was put in time out. When someone gets put in time out, they get a notification with a reason. There was no reason this time. So as I said earlier...petty.

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Old 10-19-2018, 09:11 PM
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Love him or hate him, 99% of the time he's right.
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:14 PM
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If you (general term) research the social skills of someone with high intelligence, you’ll find they tend to have weak/poor social skills. They often come off as rude or arrogant (think Steve Jobs or Elon Musk). So the way Jonathan acts shows that he is a very intelligent person. Out of his thousands of posts, you can probably count on one hand the amount of times he was wrong about the topic. When he is wrong, he admits it. He even feels terrible when he gives someone incorrect information.

And yes, there are two sides to every story. His side goes like this: He has no idea why he was put in time out. When someone gets put in time out, they get a notification with a reason. There was no reason this time. So as I said earlier...petty.

Well said, Sam.

I have a friend like that, he has photographic memory, and he can tell me the exact day and time something happened 20 years ago, in minute detail. Smart as a whip. I have tried to argue with him sometimes and it's just like arguing with a robot. I don't anymore, because I know he's probably always right.
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:18 PM
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I'm going to give an example. In this thread, there was a discussion about using a rubber strip on a plow for snow. Jon disagreed and said a steel strip is the way to go. I said it would probably depend on the surface being plowed, but to each his own on his preference. So Jon replied:

"Someone said it's personal preference..... not really. More like inexperienced operator who needs it to be easier to compensate for ability. Sorry if that offends.... just how I see it. I learned at the age of 10 on a 340 Farmall (IH) tractor how to blade snow off gravel and keep it from digging in. It can be done."

So how does that answer help anybody? He said anyone that uses a rubber strip on a plow is basically an idiot that doesn't know how to plow. That advice isn't going to help anybody, all it did was rile people up because some people did believe that a rubber wear strip helped. As I said, it seemed to be a personal preference, but Jon disagreed, and all he did was offend people, and tell them how he's better then them. Does he offer good advice at times? Yes. Does he sometimes make comments to try and prove he's better than you? Yes. The condescending attitude is what gets some people riled up the most. Nobody likes to be called stupid. I myself feel that making mistakes, or asking for help, is how you learn. I didn't come here to be talked down to.
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:27 PM
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OK I was going to stay out of this but here goes. J-Mech has probably forgotten more than a lot of members know about turning wrenches, his people skills are somewhat lacking. When someone posts about an issue Jon tends to jump in and offer his opinion about how to solve the problem. That’s all good until the poster or someone else disagrees then it’s on. Jon is like a junkyard dog with a bone and he is not going to quit, he has to prove that he is right, most of the time he is but that doesn’t matter to the most of the time "new members” that feel “Offended” Then the new members go about reporting post’s to the moderators or sending PM’s to Roland crying like a bunch of pussies. Roland gets tired of dealing with this crap and people getting a timeout or banned is the result. For whatever it’s worth I just delete most of these BS complaints. Here’s the deal kids this S—T is getting old, I know how to fix my old Cubs and I don’t need OCC or any other forum to help me. I hang around to give back to the hobby. My guess is Jon is the same way. So for you Pussy A-s members I suggest you park your ego’s at the door when you log in, pull up your big kid pants and LEARN. Now as far as Jon is concerned he needs to offer his opinion and then let it go. If a member is bound and determined to do it the wrong way who gives a S—t, it's there tractor. Blow it up OK with me, you want to build something stupid not my problem. If you disagree you can say I respectfully disagree and be prepared to backup your position with facts. Now if this pisses off enough members just say so and I’m gone. Rant over.
All that bitching about this thread and you did not then close it?
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I'm going to give an example. In this thread, there was a discussion about using a rubber strip on a plow for snow. Jon disagreed and said a steel strip is the way to go. I said it would probably depend on the surface being plowed, but to each his own on his preference. So Jon replied:

"Someone said it's personal preference..... not really. More like inexperienced operator who needs it to be easier to compensate for ability. Sorry if that offends.... just how I see it. I learned at the age of 10 on a 340 Farmall (IH) tractor how to blade snow off gravel and keep it from digging in. It can be done."

So how does that answer help anybody? He said anyone that uses a rubber strip on a plow is basically an idiot that doesn't know how to plow. That advice isn't going to help anybody, all it did was rile people up because some people did believe that a rubber wear strip helped. As I said, it seemed to be a personal preference, but Jon disagreed, and all he did was offend people, and tell them how he's better then them. Does he offer good advice at times? Yes. Does he sometimes make comments to try and prove he's better than you? Yes. The condescending attitude is what gets some people riled up the most. Nobody likes to be called stupid. I myself feel that making mistakes, or asking for help, is how you learn. I didn't come here to be talked down to.

Gotta have thicker skin than that. That's just Jon being Jon. I've been talked down to many times by him, and it burns my skin up... but then in the end when I step back from it I realized I was being an idiot, and asking stupid questions or trying something stupid and I probably deserved it.
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All that bitching about this thread and you did not then close it?
Nope because I have gotten to the point that I don't give S--t anymore.
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Nope because I have gotten to the point that I don't give S--t anymore.
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Buncha school girls round here... no offense Beth.


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