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Old 05-29-2011, 02:46 AM
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Default I hate my PTO!

I am beginning to tame my PTO. My battle started with it months ago with a rebuild. I had to destroy the pulley and replace it because the set screws wouldn't come out. I think I finally fixed it so one of the sets of nuts now doesn't come loose anymore!

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I have a replacement basket / pulley because it suffered some severe scars from removing the PTO pulley. I can not get the set screws out of the locking collar! How in the heck can I do this without tearing up the shaft?
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:04 AM
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Here is the parts diagram. Remember if you cant get it out, soak in in PB Blaster overnight if you have too. If you strip the screw head, begin extraction process with an easy out. Read and follow the directions.
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:28 AM
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Got torches? Some strategically placed heat usually helps a lot.
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Similar problem here. Iwas able to get both screws out of two of the holes by the described overnight soak with PB. When I started on the third one, the ball on the end of the allen wrench broke off and is now stuck in the allen screw. Any one know of a way to get that allen wrench out? I have already tried a magnet, butit would not pull the piece out.
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:18 AM
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Default more questions... and a youtube link...

i tried drilling them out with a hand drill... after going through three bits on one set screw, i decided to just destroy the pto pulley and get another from the local bone yard...

later, i found a video of a guy drilling them out with a high speed drill press and he went through like 5 bits so he bought 20 more! he ended up heating it with a torch then it drilled out easier....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMhOZUdrh0M

i was just afraid to do that right next to the shaft... is this okay? what do i need to watch out for?

does the bearing come off when the collar comes loose or do i use a pulling tool on the bearing?

thanks!
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:29 AM
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Hey James, when I read the name of your thread, I thought we had something in common. I've been a school administrator for 22 years and it's taken nearly that long for me to "tame" my PTO, also.
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:59 AM
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sweet mooner! I've been a band director for 18 years and i'm finishing my 12th year at this particular school... i'll probably retire here...

my grandpa had a cub cadet... i think it was like a 124...

mine is a 147 (close enough for me to think of my grandpa when i use it)

i'm looking forward to getting to the physical stages of restoring it... i'm still knee deep in mechanical issues...

i think i have my pto tamed for now... it works with the current basket but i want to replace it for sure!

i just bought a wiring harness because some of the wires are so dry-rotted, i don't know how they are working...

i have to replace the brake pads (just got my liners in thursday) next is to open up the tranny, check it out and see if it needs attention...

i think my starter / generator needs replaced maybe... i bought a new battery for it three weeks ago and i had to put a charger on it to get it to start yesterday... the starter just seems slow when it turns the motor over... luckily the motor is easy to start! (could be my wires too)

any words of advice before i dive into any of these projects? I'm sure i'll be posting plenty of questions here! what a great site!

summer's almost here and i'll have a little more time to work on my cub!
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Old 05-29-2011, 02:20 PM
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I had a similar dilemma on a parts tractor, I decided to destroy the pto so I could get it off. What I did was take a 3" cutoff wheel, and cut the 3 clutch fingers in two, so I could remove the center piece, exposing the end of the crank. I the used a 3 leg gear puller hooked into the pulley of the pto and the center of it pushing/ pulling against the end of the crank. It pulled it off very easily, then it was simple to get to the set screws on the locking ring and remove it.
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I'm trying to get the lock ring set screws out. I already dealt with and rebuilt the pto pulley
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Similar problem here. Iwas able to get both screws out of two of the holes by the described overnight soak with PB. When I started on the third one, the ball on the end of the allen wrench broke off and is now stuck in the allen screw. Any one know of a way to get that allen wrench out? I have already tried a magnet, butit would not pull the piece out.
I got the broken piece out. Used a 1/4 inch mmagnetic pick up tool after cleaning the hole and the broken piece with brake clean.
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