Johnson loader hinge points

Shaner · #1 01-05-2012, 12:25 PM

i was wondering if anyone on here who has a Johnson Workhorse front end loader could post some pics of the hinge points for me...i am going to build my own front end loader and need some guidance on what to do for the hinge points. especially where the loader arms connect to the loader frame. if anyone could help me, itd be greatly appreciated.

riesedesperado6170 · #2 01-05-2012, 01:17 PM

I don't have a johnson loader i have a kwikway i'll get pic today if it will help but they use steel bushing stock welded in the inside of the tubes. you can can plans for a loader at pfengineering.verizon.net he got pic to that my help too.

Shaner · #3 01-05-2012, 03:16 PM

i am going to order the PF engineering plans. i just want to know what the bushings inside the loader arms look like so i can get a feel of what i gotta do. pictures would be great! thank you

red56turbo · #4 01-05-2012, 11:59 PM

Shaner,
These are the only pics on the puter I could find showing a little of the pivot point. Hopefully someone else may give ya closer up pics. If not, I can shoot you a couple and post 'em. This is the Johnson as I was putting it on the 129 last winter.

thenrie · #5 01-06-2012, 10:17 AM

My dad has a kubota B7100. I'm trying to recall, but I don't believe there were any bushings at the pivot points. Just holes and steel pins. Never had a problem. Ran the thing off a hill and into a concrete wall once. Busted the welds on the cross-brace on the forward frame that holds the bucket (and nearly bucked me off), but no broken pins or other problems. Welded her back up and she's fine to this day...although just a little skiwampus if you look closely.

Very similar to what you see above in Josh's post.

Matt G. · #6 01-06-2012, 05:15 PM

The bushings are needed. The welds around one of the bushing in my Kwik-Way had cracked and the bushing came loose, and the hole got pretty egged out as a result. Whether it has worked for some companies/people or not, taking bearing loads on the tubing walls instead of a bushing is just a p!$$-poor design.

nix1650 · #7 01-06-2012, 11:07 PM

When I built the loader for my 1650 I bought the plans from pfd. Great plans,the only problem was the the pins on the uprights. They use only 1/2pins if I rember right. I Went with 1" pins and used 1 1/16 id dom pipe for bushings. Will try to you get pics of my loader this weekend

thenrie · #8 01-07-2012, 09:12 PM

On the Kubota, there were no bronze bushings, but there were tubes welded in place for the pins to run through on the 2X4 tubing for the bucket frame, but on the uprights it was just holes in the steel brackets, like what you see in Josh's pics. I put that thing through a lot of rough work and never hogged out any of the pivot points.

Matt G. · #9 01-07-2012, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenrie

On the Kubota, there were no bronze bushings, but there were tubes welded in place for the pins to run through on the 2X4 tubing for the bucket frame, but on the uprights it was just holes in the steel brackets, like what you see in Josh's pics. I put that thing through a lot of rough work and never hogged out any of the pivot points.

I don't think we were on the same page. What I thought you meant was, there was no bushing (what you're calling a tube) welded in the frame tubing. What you've said would be the correct way to do it.

Another tip for the OP, make sure the pivot pins you use are not hardened, otherwise the pins will remain pristine and the loader frame itself will wear. A grease fitting somewhere in there would be a GREAT idea.