Is a CREEPER GEAR a CREEPER GEAR?

ToddW · #1 03-20-2012, 11:00 PM

Just meaning, would one off of a model 73 fit on a 108?

I think I read somewhere on a thread here that the handle has to be lengthened, but that is all, correct?
Just trying to verify so I have no surprises if I get one from a 73

IACubCadet · #2 03-20-2012, 11:07 PM

Yes, this is true. A creeper gear will fit from a 73 to a 108, and all that needs to be done is buy an extension for the handle. Make sure if you get a creeper that you get the drive gear that attaches to the input shaft on the tranny and a shorter driveshaft. Also, make sure to fill the creeper up with Hy Tran or 30 weight engine oil!!

ToddW · #3 03-20-2012, 11:50 PM

Thanks for the info. It sounds like creepers that normally get sold do not include: the drive gear that attaches to the input shaft on the tranny and a shorter driveshaft??

approx how much should I expect to pay extra for picking those up?

Thanks again

Matt G. · #4 03-21-2012, 08:09 AM

The handle is different between a WF and NF creeper; you can't simply extend it. To put a NF creeper in a WF, you'll have to bend the handle as well as extend it, or simply replace it. Going the other direction, it'd be simpler to replace the handle.

Don't buy a creeper that doesn't have the drive gear...most should have it, and there's no reason for it not to unless the seller doesn't know what he's doing. The driveshaft just has to be shortened. No need to replace it unless it is worn out.

lukeott · #5 03-22-2012, 09:12 AM

i think that's to big of a problem. so i'll be nice and take that off your hands and put it on my 73. just trying to help.

luke

ToddW · #6 03-22-2012, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt G.

The handle is different between a WF and NF creeper; you can't simply extend it. To put a NF creeper in a WF, you'll have to bend the handle as well as extend it, or simply replace it. Going the other direction, it'd be simpler to replace the handle.

Don't buy a creeper that doesn't have the drive gear...most should have it, and there's no reason for it not to unless the seller doesn't know what he's doing. The driveshaft just has to be shortened. No need to replace it unless it is worn out.

Thanks for this info, It has the drive gear. Now I just have to decide If I want to buy it knowing that there will be a lot to consider in getting the handle adapted

red56turbo · #7 03-22-2012, 11:13 AM

On the driveshaft, most original cub gear driveshafts have a line on them and the rolled pin hole already drilled. All you have to do is cut the shaft at the line and you're good to go. I agree with Matt, the gear should come with the creeper when sold. Good luck and keep us posted.

4SPEED · #8 03-26-2012, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by IACubCadet

Also, make sure to fill the creeper up with Hy Tran or 30 weight engine oil!!

can you tell me more , why 30 weight and not the gear oil I'll put in the trans? could/should a non detergent oil be used?

Matt G. · #9 03-26-2012, 08:06 AM

'Gear oil' doesn't go in the transmission....Hytran does.

Oddly enough, the aluminum MTD-built creepers are supposed to have 85W-140 in them.

4SPEED · #10 03-26-2012, 08:27 AM

So Hytran go's in both , manual and hydro drives. I didnt know that.

I have some Lucas 85W-140 for the creeper.