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Old 02-14-2013, 03:46 PM
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Hi guys. I am looking online at a 782 with a dead engine. Think it was run with low oil and locked up. I asked the owner if it was a Series I or a Series II and he did not know. He sent me a picture which showed KOHLER Twin 17 on the air cleaner. Does that designate a Series I or did both engines have that label? Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:23 PM
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if it just says KT twin its probably series 1, that's all they put on the original ones. it could have been short blocked to a series II . does it have a location for a oil filter or have a filter on it?
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:10 PM
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Thanks for the input. I can't tell from the photo if there is a provision for an oil filter. I will call the guy back and ask. I wonder if there is a serial number break at which they switched to Series II? I have not found any posts which address that, but some of you guys work wonders at finding that kind of stuff which we newer guys can't. I will assume it is Series I and be pleasantly surprised if I buy it and find it is a Series II. Thanks again.
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Get the "Spec Number" from the engine model tag. That will tell for sure.
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numbers wouldn't tell you much if it was short blocked.
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Be careful that you don't give too much $$$ for it because of your excitement to get a 782.
Usually a quick visual of the fill plug is a good, but not positive identification.
A sq headed pipe plug usually indicates a series 1, a curved nipple with a cap is usually a series II, but be aware they can exchange those.
Another way, but hard to see is where the dip stick goes in, not only is there a block off plate for a filter on the II's but the passage plug is larger on the II's but without having the 1's and II's to compare, it is difficult to explain/see.
I really need to find a pix I have somewhere in my 3000 + pix.
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The photo I have of the engine is from the side looking over the top of a hood side panel at the air cleaner. I can see the dip stick handle in the foreground and the curved oil fill pipe beyond with a cap that has the two ears sticking up on top for you to turn it with. From Ol' Georges comments I think this might be a Series II. I went ahead and agreed to purchase the tractor and now I have to wait about three weeks before I can go get it and know for sure.
Thanks again to all you guys for your inputs. I really enjoy this forum, read it regularly and continue to be amazed at the knowledge that exists here and is so freely given.
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I just copied the photo of the engine out of CL and will try to attach it here
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I've seen many Series I with the curved oil fill tube. If it received a new or used short block, wouldn't that have a different serial number tag with it. I can't remember what the tag connects to though. My guess is Series I.
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if it just says KT twin its probably series 1, that's all they put on the original ones. it could have been short blocked to a series II . does it have a location for a oil filter or have a filter on it?
what would it look like if there was a location for an oil filter and no oil filter?
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