Whats considered low/high hours?

metalrain · #1 12-20-2009, 06:59 AM

I'm looking at a 2084 cub, it has 600 hours, wondering how the hour meter comes into play when buying a tractor like this? Whats low hours/ vs / high hours?
I think i read somewhere that the standard higher quality tractors can expect to go 2000 hours, just wondering what everybodys thoughts are on this?

Metalrain

ccpullin · #2 12-20-2009, 07:11 AM

Don't trust the hour meter unless you know the tractor or person selling it as too many meters get changed. Go by the condition of the tractor. If you get up around 1000 hours on an air cooled engine (depending on how it was take care of) is the point where it may begin to smoke and use a little oil. 600 hours on that tractor, because of the engine in it and the model would be "low hours" if the meter is correct and the tractor has been taken care of .

IAfarmer · #3 12-20-2009, 09:40 AM

My 782's hour meter says 400 hours. I thought I had gotten an unmolested, well taken care of survivor, and then it started to smoke. A powerwash revealed the old paint underneath and I realized, it was all pretty and not what I thought it was. It's still a good tractor and only uses a quart per year, but startup smoke is bothersome and worrysome.

Don't trust the hour meter. Run it, listen to it, and really check it out.

Matt G. · #4 12-20-2009, 09:50 AM

I would go more by the overall condition of the tractor than by what the hourmeter says. Hourmeters quit working, get replaced, etc. Additionally, the wiring on those cyclops tractors is horrible, so I really would not trust that the hourmeter has been functioning all this time.

Not to mention that the hourmeter is not going to show the difference between a 2000-hour tractor that's been well-maintained and a 500-hour machine that's been abused.

If it was maintained well, the CH20 in that 2084 could go 2000 hours. I have seen even series I KT-17s approach 1700 hours....

metalrain · #5 12-20-2009, 10:55 AM

Thanks guys....
I have a 125/1450/682 and was looking for one last tractor,
either a 782, or a super tractor. Not alot of cubs out in this area, but i did find one close by, but he wants big money for it. The 2084 has the deck/weights/chains/snowblower/ and a heavy duty cab (metal type with a wiper blade, all for just around 2300 dollars. I have not seen it...pic looks good, but i'm thinking thats alot of money. Any idea of what i should be paying for something like this? Don't know if hes willing to deal, but i'd like some ammo when i talk to him. Thanks guys...

Metalrain

aagitch · #6 12-20-2009, 11:30 AM

That's a tough one since they are hard to find in your area. That probably makes it worth more than what it would be worth around here.

Matt G. · #7 12-20-2009, 12:03 PM

Well...I once saw a kind of rough 2084 w/ 54" deck go for $1400 at an auction. If that one's nice, it and the deck should be worth about $1500. Add $100 for the weights and chains, $350 for the blower, and $450 for the cab, and that's $2400, so $2300 probably isn't too far off. I don't think a cyclops would be my first choice of super because of all the structural plastic, wiring issues, and paint issues, but they can be nice if they were well-maintained.

ccpullin · #8 12-20-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by metalrain

Thanks guys....
I have a 125/1450/682 and was looking for one last tractor,
either a 782, or a super tractor. Not alot of cubs out in this area, but i did find one close by, but he wants big money for it. The 2084 has the deck/weights/chains/snowblower/ and a heavy duty cab (metal type with a wiper blade, all for just around 2300 dollars. I have not seen it...pic looks good, but i'm thinking thats alot of money. Any idea of what i should be paying for something like this? Don't know if hes willing to deal, but i'd like some ammo when i talk to him. Thanks guys...

Metalrain

Go for a Super and you won’t regret it! That’s not a bad price with those options and low hours, as clean ones are getting harder to find. I have 4 Supers to include a 2082 with a green 44 loader on it, a 2084 with a snow blower, a 1772 diesel with a snow blade and a 982 with a snow blade, and love them all. I will say you sit more comfortable on the 982 & 1772 tractors though. I also have an all original 169 with a Quick Way loader, original 1650 dual hydraulics and a 0riginal 149 which are great tractors, but they are not Supers!

metalrain · #9 12-20-2009, 02:56 PM

So, what kind of wiring issues do they have? Is it fixable?
How about the kohler command? any issues there?
The paint and plastic is something i can deal with. I guess i hesitate alittle, the cabs nice, but don't really need it.
Heres the pic...not that you can tell anything from the picture.

Metalrain

Merk · #10 12-20-2009, 02:57 PM

Here are some interresting facts from a Biggs and Stratton small motor class that I used to teach:
Average life of a push mower is 2-3 years.
Average life of a lawn tractor is 3-5 years.
Average life of a garden tractor is 7-8 years.
Sad to say the average small motor owner isn't too keen on preventive maintance.

I have a off topic garden tractor that I purchase new 14 years ago. It has a Briggs and Stratton Van Guard 2 cylinder that has 930 hours on it. It doesn't smoke or use any oil. The only motor problems I've had was gear on starter that I had to replace and fouling out champion spark plugs....It doesn't foul out Auto Lite plugs. Briggs claims this motor should last 2000 hours with no major problems.

Most motors will last more than a 1000 hours if the owner does the regular maintance like the follow the owner's manual maintance schedule. A good grade of fuel is a key item in making a motor last. Using a good quality replacement parts helps extend the life of a motor.

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by ccpullin
Go for a Super and you won’t regret it! That’s not a bad price with those options and low hours, as clean ones are getting harder to find. I have 4 Supers to include a 2082 with a green 44 loader on it, a 2084 with a snow blower, a 1772 diesel with a snow blade and a 982 with a snow blade, and love them all. I will say you sit more comfortable on the 982 & 1772 tractors though. I also have an all original 169 with a Quick Way loader, original 1650 dual hydraulics and a 0riginal 149 which are great tractors, but they are not Supers!

I have work on and driven Supers.....not at all impress with them. They need more room to turn and take more room to store. Only thing nice about a super is the power steering.