No start 1450

johncub7172 · #1 06-09-2014, 05:04 PM

Oh Great Ones,...... The 1450 I have don't seem to want to start. I get a clicking sound each time I turn the ignition key to start position. If I release the brake peddle and attempt to start the tractor, I don't hear the clicking sound. That should be enough to acknowledge that the safety switch is working accordingly.

Now, things we're NOT going to do:

monkey play with setting the timing

monkey play with setting valves

removing the head for no reason

screw around with the wires

The tractor ran just fine up until a few moments ago. It has a bran new Cub Cadet ignition switch. Maybe it went bad?

Ok, here's the deal. I push the 1450 back to, and in the shop, cover it up, and kick off the model 72. There now, that's how you fix the 1450, after all....the first horse from the gate don't always win the race!

Though, the other problems I can think of are a dead battery, which I don't understand that. Or the starter solenoid. I have to readjust the hood due to the new hood hinge I installed, so it looks like a opportune time to remove the side panels and check further ahead.

I don't have the time at the moment to research the problem further. I just know everything was fine. What I think I would like to do is to bench test the ignition switch....I have another plug and wires from a 1250.

Any thoughts or ideas welcome,

thank you

John

olds45512 · #2 06-09-2014, 05:12 PM

That clicking is probably the starter solenoid, get a test light and see if your getting power to the starter side of the solenoid when you hit the key. The contacts were burnt inside mine not letting the power reach the starter.

drglinski · #3 06-09-2014, 05:57 PM

Every time this would happen on dads 782 it was because the battery cable connections get corroded and don't work correctly. Usually all I had to do was disconnect them, clean them up with a wire brush, and re install. See if that helps. Probably wouldn't hurt to check other grounds as well.

cubs-n-bxrs · #4 06-09-2014, 06:34 PM

First thing I would check is the terminal plug that plugs onto the ignition switch. Same thing happened on my 682. Didn't have time to search out a new 5 pin connector so I just put on individual push connectors on the wires and plugged onto the switch.

darkminion_17 · #5 06-09-2014, 06:40 PM

Just use the 72 from now on.....0

sounds like a dead bat or a loose connection...

yeeter · #6 06-09-2014, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drglinski

Every time this would happen on dads 782 it was because the battery cable connections get corroded and don't work correctly. Usually all I had to do was disconnect them, clean them up with a wire brush, and re install. See if that helps. Probably wouldn't hurt to check other grounds as well.

+1

Same with my truck.

Clean it all up (and be sure the battery is charged) and try again.

Sam Mac · #7 06-09-2014, 06:53 PM

John

Looking at how the 1450 is wired it is very similar to the 1210 I used to own. I could not get it started in the winter for the life of me. What I did was to run a ground cable from the battery to the engine, I attached it at the starter and a larger cable from the battery to the solenoid and from the solenoid to the starter. I used welding cable. I also pulled the starter and cleaned up the commutater and the brushes. No more problems after that. Hope this helps.

Mac

gmbadgley · #8 06-09-2014, 08:59 PM

Just a quick side note on the problem. It sounds to me like a no crank problem, not a no start problem.
Don't feel bad 90% of the people that I get calls from do the same thing, but as a mechanic I start trouble shooting in my head before I even see a machine. That is when I have to ask it won't start or won't crank?

Greg

drglinski · #9 06-09-2014, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmbadgley

Just a quick side note on the problem. It sounds to me like a no crank problem, not a no start problem.
Don't feel bad 90% of the people that I get calls from do the same thing, but as a mechanic I start trouble shooting in my head before I even see a machine. That is when I have to ask it won't start or won't crank?

Greg

It's better to look into an issue and ask questions before going gung ho- tearing into it and making it worse IMO.

sawdustdad · #10 06-09-2014, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkminion_17

Just use the 72 from now on.....0

sounds like a dead bat or a loose connection...

Start with the high probability issues--battery and connections, then chassis and starter +12v and grounds. The fact that the starter solenoid clicks but the engine doesn't crank means the starter isn't getting power. Did I mention to check the starter positive and ground connections?