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Old 06-13-2014, 05:43 AM
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Default Please help me, 1641 v-twin engine

please help me. new to working on lawn mowers, and my first cub cadet, its a 1641 with v-twin engine... issues is any one have a picture of how the brake/clutch pedal hooks up should look like??? mine is only ran to the brakes and I just don't understand how that works for a clutch if its not running to the clutch??? if Its not working the clutch then basicly my driveshaft will never stop spinning and I wont be able to stop the mower while in gear cause engine will die I think? right? I cant do anything with it right now cause the driveshaft on the end that mounts to the transmission has the teeth chewed off some how... so the drive shaft is off the tractor right now... I also need a picture of the drive shaft to make sure I put mine back on the transmission correctly haha. but another issue im having is I see videos of people being able to take the tractor out of gear with or without engine running... mine will not shift out of neautral.... I have not tried to engage pto yet cause its in the bed of my truck and it don't exactly fit so I cant let that engage the mower deck.... so can any one help me out with pictures of how the brake/clutch pedal is? and explain how to hook it up please... and pictures of the drive shaft hooked to the transmission... im pretty sure the side that hooks to engine is simple. im a good mechanic to vehicles but im dumb founded to this lawn mower... i got it for free and was already torn apart... im piecing it back together
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Old 06-13-2014, 06:19 AM
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please help me. new to working on lawn mowers, and my first cub cadet, its a 1641 with v-twin engine... issues is any one have a picture of how the brake/clutch pedal hooks up should look like??? mine is only ran to the brakes and I just don't understand how that works for a clutch if its not running to the clutch??? if Its not working the clutch then basicly my driveshaft will never stop spinning and I wont be able to stop the mower while in gear cause engine will die I think? right? I cant do anything with it right now cause the driveshaft on the end that mounts to the transmission has the teeth chewed off some how... so the drive shaft is off the tractor right now... I also need a picture of the drive shaft to make sure I put mine back on the transmission correctly haha. but another issue im having is I see videos of people being able to take the tractor out of gear with or without engine running... mine will not shift out of neautral.... I have not tried to engage pto yet cause its in the bed of my truck and it don't exactly fit so I cant let that engage the mower deck.... so can any one help me out with pictures of how the brake/clutch pedal is? and explain how to hook it up please... and pictures of the drive shaft hooked to the transmission... im pretty sure the side that hooks to engine is simple. im a good mechanic to vehicles but im dumb founded to this lawn mower... i got it for free and was already torn apart... im piecing it back together
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please help me. my first cub and im stuck, I usualy work on vehicles.. I got this cub cadet 1641 for free... my problem is the brake pedal.. isn't it a clutch pedal also? mine is only hooked to the brake nothing else... what am I missing? take pictures.. help me out please.. also .... right now the drive shaft is bad im waiting on my replacement but it will not come out of neautral wether its running or not.. is that normal? I have not tried to engage pto cause its in the bed of my truck right now and the deck don't exactly fit haha. please help me out.. answer some questions. I really need the help.... I don't understand how it works..... it has the v-twin engine. im trying to compare it to a vehicle... so when I press the brake/clutch that should stop the driveshaft from moving also? other wise if its moving trying to spin the transmission and rear end and im trying to stop it while its in gear then the engine would die just like in a car correct? please pictures.. help me out. im so confused. this makes no since to me.

OK you had the same post up in 2 areas so I combined them and deleted the other one. This is where the 1641 belongs.
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Old 06-13-2014, 06:32 AM
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Sounds like this one is going to be interesting.

1: The 1641 is hydrostatic drive so the drive shaft spins whenever the engine is running.

2: The brake pedal also moves the hydro linkage to neutral so if the brake is down it should be in neutral.

If you can post some pics of what you have we may be better able to help. This pic is the trans linkage.
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Old 06-13-2014, 05:16 PM
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come to find out the shifter was my stupidity... I had the brake down haha.... sorry... so the driveshaft is myy main issues now. how does it hook back up? one end seems simple but the other end seems not as simple from pics ive seen online mine don't look the same. I don't currently have the shaft so cant take pic... I took pics og engine side and transmission side though.
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Default the spring ull see...

the brake pedal wasn't coming back up when I got the mower and I found a random spring on the left side of tranny (while sitting on tractor facing forward its left side) I moved the spring cause it was broken and I put it back on just in a different spot.
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any more help? just need the drive shaft figured out now I think... other than the pto switch engages when its in its whole... but when I take it out of the whole on dash where it mounts to... it works fine.. or it disengages.. ive never tried to engage it yet cause the mower deck is not in a safe area right now. it came with another switch but its in worse condition so wandering if some one swapped it out already.. but I don't understand why it would matter wether its in the whole or not.... but anyway the drive shaft ends are where my problem is just reassymbling the drive shaft.. needing another drive shaft.. and one end is different... they both mount with 4 bolts.. but one end has a flat plate and nuts that came with it... the other end has no nuts and no plate and it didn't have that plastic fan I see on a lot of cub pictures...
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Old 06-13-2014, 08:46 PM
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Default Cub Cadet 1641 V-twin, I got last week.

I got this cub cadet 1641 v-twin lawn mower for free =] didn't run any at all, got the engine going altho I think it needs different spark plugs than what I put in it.. but it was what I had lieing around... the engine makes a slight knocking sound while running. very slight. it came with buckets of parts.. all the side panels... ive been putting it back together... the drive shaft has teeth chewed off on one side lol. still having slight problems with reassymbly but getting there.. really need another drive shaft but don't have the cash... gonna do the worst possible thing... weld the end that's broken lol. its not ment to move anyway haha. its a tymporary fix... unless some one has a drive shaft? also need a seat mine is unhooking from the metal base. its not in the best shape. its also missing the cover over the driveshaft area... that metal or plastic cover is missing. gonna get more updated pictures... the guy said the battery was dead but when I messed with it, it was not dead lol. far from being dead.. its a good battery.
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Old 06-13-2014, 08:55 PM
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Looks like a decent machine. Sooooooo what are your questions? If you want a part, post in the wanted section. If you have a question, ask. If you need a driveshaft, check eBay or again, post in the wanted area here. Be more clear is what you want/what you are asking, and we'll all be more than happy to help you
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:08 PM
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well, I was just showing my tractor. I have another thread for whats wrong with it. I didn't want to duplicate it. but I need pics of some one with the same setup.. I need to see the drive shaft hooked up at both ends.. I think I might be missing some.. I no im missing the fan... one end has a flat plate... the other end don't.. one end has nuts on the bolts also... so I think im missing parts or just don't no how to put it on haha. I work on cars not lawn mowers. this is my first lawn mower.... first cub too.
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Not a bad machine at all! Good luck with it.
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