Creeper redesign?

[eastonct124]

Has anyone ever thought of designing a creeper unit that can handle more stress?
I've heard that they are not strong enough to be used under severe load...IE: pulling serious weight....which is the whole reason for a creeper gear.
I would think something could be machined that could stand up to real abuse, instead of it on being used for say tilling speeds.

[ihnick]

or make one that doesnt slow them down so much? maybe half a gear or so? just like the torque amplifiers on the old farmalls.

[Matt G.]

Originally Posted by eastonct124

Has anyone ever thought of designing a creeper unit that can handle more stress?
I've heard that they are not strong enough to be used under severe load...IE: pulling serious weight....which is the whole reason for a creeper gear.
I would think something could be machined that could stand up to real abuse, instead of it on being used for say tilling speeds.

The "whole reason for a creeper gear" is to slow the tractor down enough so that the snowthrower and tiller will work properly on a gear drive. You don't need a creeper to pull serious weight. These tractors run out of traction long before they run out of torque and power. They can't put the power they have to the ground. Cutting the speed in half and doubling the torque won't solve the traction issue.

[cadetfarmer]

I have never had the engine stall or even lug down on my 100 (10 hp Kohler),
I always run out of traction. I tried putting wheel weights on, and got the same results as when I tried it on my big Farmall. I just dug bigger holes faster.

Cadet Farmer

[eastonct124]

These machines definitely don't have a lack of power, it's the gearing needed to drag, like a 700pnd rock. I have heard that the creeper will not handle it.
That's what I'm talking about.

[Matt G.]

If you're trying to drag a 700 lb. rock, you need a farm tractor, not a Cub Cadet. It doesn't matter how slow you go...you still won't have enough traction with Cub Cadet.

[eastonct124]

I didn't weigh it...I not being literal. I drag some pretty heavy loads....I just know when i had my f350, I could move houses when in creeper, without burning the clutch.
When I load the sled up, it's that initial getting it moving that's the hardest, with creeper, it's much easier. I don't have creeper yet, and I'm hesitant to put that kind of stress on it simply from what I've read from posts here.
But, if you all say it's strong enough, I'll try it.
If I blow it apart, I'll let ya know, and start my own redesign project.

[Matt G.]

For heavy loads, it is not strong enough, as has been said before.

Simple solution: get a hydro....then, you can go as slow as you want.

[Merk]

I've had over 600 pounds on this sled:

The 8 horse motor in this Cub has no problems pulling the sled:


Closer view of the 8 horse power motor in my Son's 86:

[ihnick]

man merk that 86 looks sweet. i really want a 86 and 800