1650 starting issues

[machinehead323]

My 1650 is acting up while starting. Well end of last summer when I would try and turn it over it the starter would sometimes barely turn and stop. I would have to keep turning the ignition off and on to cycle the starter and keep the key turned on till the starter finally turned the engine over. Sometimes it would turn right over and fire up. Well the other day the battery post finally leaked enough acid so I went and got a new diehard and threw it in. Started fine once and then did the same barely crank and then stop. Almost like compression is keeping it from turning. The starter gear was engaged into the flywheel when I took the starter off to check the connections. I did hook it strait to a battery and seemed to spin well. Don't really know what I was looking for since Ive never hooked one up direct to check them. The engine has 63 hrs on a rebuild and the starter is 3 years old. Battery just replaced. All my connections seem good, tight and clean. So what are your thoughts?

[machinehead323]

When i first got it it did not have any trouble starting. it still has the original ground setup in it right now. The wire off the negative terminal goes right down into the frame and another ground cable in the front by the aluminum grill to the starter bolt. it is on a 2 amp charger right now making sure the battery is good to go before i try and get in out of the rain and into the garage. i am on quite a time crunch. i leave to go overseas for 6 months next week and trying to get the tractor ready for the summer.

[Randy Littrell]

Just because the cable are there doesn't mean there is a good connection. Pull them off, wire brush them and anti seize them or something equivalent.

Sometimes the smallest thing can cause problems. Hope this might help.

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Randy

[machinehead323]

I'm hoping the rain stops so i can get it in the garage and rip apart the wires. when the battery was changed i did clean those connections with baking soda and water. i use dielectric grease on the connections to help with corrosion. i need to wire wheel and check everything else out. do y'all know of a comparable selinoid from tractor supply or napa. i dont think i will have enough time to order one and get it here. and yes i am in the service and very happy to serve. ill hit 20yrs while deployed.

[machinehead323]

i also here that a ford solenoid can work also but it has one extra terminal. any particular way to deal with the extra terminal. can i wire it in to either one of the terminals. anyone have a good part number for it? i have no clue if that is the problem, just researching while i can't work on it.

[jsoluna]

When I experienced a similar issue on my 1250, I tested voltage at the solenoid and at the starter and found that my ignition switch was very picky about when it would engage the starter solenoid. It would make a connection briefly, but would open the circuit if I turned the switch just a hair too far. Replaced the switch and ran new primary leads for negative and positive. Cranks in single digits without a hitch.

[zippy1]

Did you check the timing since the rebuild? Also may want to check the valves clearance.

[machinehead323]

just recently redid the timing using an ohm meter.

[johncub7172]

I have had good luck using a 1988 Ford Crown Vic starter solenoid on my 1450. They are almost the same shape as the original Quiet Line's s.s .

[johncub7172]

Could be an ignition switch. I can't think of a good reason your starter is sticking in the fly wheel?

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