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Old 07-11-2020, 01:41 PM
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hi, new to the forum.

ive recent acquired a cub cadet 104. they guy was building it for pulling but im needing it to mow. ive replaced the entire electrical system, but today when i went to start it for the first time, the moment i connected the battery the starter started spinning without the key in it. i had a brand new harness but with the starter constantly spinning, the harness fried. on a positive note the tractor did run lol

can someone help me out? could i possibly get photos of the magnetic switch and how the battery is cabled? i think thats my issue

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Old 07-11-2020, 01:55 PM
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You replaced the entire electrical system. Begs to ask two questions:
1. Where did you get the wiring harness?
2. What key switch did you use? They are not all created "electrically" equal.
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Old 07-11-2020, 02:48 PM
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The last tractor I bought from a "wanna be puller" was totally screwed up as well.

Voltage regulator wired correctly??

Why on earth did you let it crank that long to begin with when you could tell something was amiss?
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Old 07-11-2020, 02:50 PM
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And did you pay attention to the LABELED terminals on the voltage regulator, not where they are located?
Also the Regulator has to be grounded.
Your not the first and won't be the last that has happened to.
Also are you sure you have the correct IGN switch?
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Old 07-11-2020, 03:54 PM
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/MAIN-AND-LI...QAAOSwvihY9CA8

this is the wire harness i got, attached with the wiring diagram

the voltage reg is wired as
L going to start/gen
F going to the F on starter/gen
Bat going to charge indicator which is tied to the battery and ignition

as for key switch, he said it was "new", i tested it with my multimeter and it seemed to be fine and wired correctly

i didnt leave it connected constantly, i new it was starting when connected to battery, i just kept taping the cable to the battery to keep the engine running, i wasnt paying attention to the wires and fried the battery cable going to the voltage reg
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Old 07-11-2020, 04:00 PM
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The "L" is NOT used on the 104 tractor. It was only used on the Original and the 70/100 series.

Go to the Technical Library Section on page #5, and download the correct diagram for your 104.
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The "L" is NOT used on the 104 tractor. It was only used on the Original and the 70/100 series.

Go to the Technical Library Section on page #5, and download the correct diagram for your 104.
thank you, did i buy the wrong volt reg if it has an L on it? its wired like the diagram in the Technical section
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Old 07-11-2020, 04:52 PM
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nvm voltage reg was wired wrong, i thought the G on the back was for ground

but what is causing the direct connection to the starter?
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Old 07-11-2020, 06:19 PM
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NO, not necessarily. Do NOT use the L terminal. Insulate and isolate.
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Old 07-11-2020, 06:39 PM
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so come to find out, just by switching that one wire on the voltage regulator and correcting the mistake on the amp meter. the tractor fired right up with the key!!

tomorrow ill put some tubes in the front tires and hopefully take it on its maiden voyage across the lawn ha

thank you for the help! glad i joined this forum
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