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Old 08-18-2012, 09:44 PM
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Cost is an issue with me as well. I use the previously mentioned Traveller universal Tractor Trans/Hydraulic fluid. It says on the jug that it meets Hy-tran specs. The 2 gallon jug is $19.99 at my TSC store. AFAIK,it is the cheapest suitable alternative you can buy. Again,just my opinion,YMMV.
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:39 PM
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Carquest has a direct replacement for hy-tran, meets all the specs of hytran, put in the 129 when I changed the fluid and filter. If memory serves me well, I belive that it was right around $30 for two gallons. Of course that was a while back and I can't quite remember.
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Old 08-19-2012, 12:19 AM
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I should add that I've opened up Cub transaxles that only used Hytran Ultra and it's the only brand I will put in my Cubs. As rarely as you have to change it, the cost over the years averages out.
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Old 08-19-2012, 12:42 AM
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im not running a nqs tractor
We run local pulls only....not nqs.

What class(s) are you pulling in?
What is the biggest engine you can run?
What engine are using?

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im not buying or running the hy-trans because i think its just over priced and im sure if you did a chemical anylisis with Hy-trans and something else im sure it will come out compariable to something else on the market everything like that is made by someone else and there name put on it just my 2 cents worth
someone else oil may meet the specs of Hy-Tran-can your cheaper oil encapsulate water like this?


The rear end had water in it when I open it up. Water can get into your transmission thru the gear shifter.

I want all the power I can get if I was running a lower horsepower engine in a pulling class. I'm willing to spend a few extra $$$ to get best protection I can find.

Reminds me of the old Fram oil filter commerical......You can pay little more now or alot later.

To answer your orginal question-
Yes you can use something besides Hy-Tran in your cub cadets rear end.
I wouldn't.
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:12 AM
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Heres my take on petroleum fluids, I lived within a few miles of a Pennzoil refinery (closed now) all my life. I know several people from plant workers to truck drivers that worked there. All oils are manufactered to a set of standards. I was told as most of you are aware that oils are made to meet these standards set by the API. Thats why manufactures list the fluids required for their equipment to meet standard such and such. IH did not have their own refinery to make these fluids so that means they were made by some other mfg. From what I know the oil and lubes that go into a Pennzoil. Quakerstate, Walmart, Dollar General, ect, they all come out of the same tank, same API standard, just marketed by another company. I had one truck driver tell me that one thing they did do after loading a tanker was go into a small shed and fill a small container with some other fluid and dump it into the tank, that made that load something else. I know nothing about chemistry and that is probally the difference in Hytran and others. But remember, all the other tractor mfg. out there probally use something other than Hytran and still have tractors out there as old as our tractors. In my opionion, just make sure the fliuids you use meet or exceed the API standard, the Standard is the same reguardless of the Mfg. One other thing I learned about 80/90 gear lubes is that one (can't remember if it is GL7, or GL8) will harm soft metals such as yellow brass. So check the containes and buy what you want, I doubt you will harm anything as long as it meets or exceeds the standard. I found this out when looking for a lube for the gear case on my bike. Use the money saved to buy gas. One other question, how is the water getting into the rearends on these tractors. I have never seen water in rearends unless a seal was bad or it set in water for a long time? At least when I was doing a lot of off road in trucks that is.
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:38 AM
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Water gets in through the shifter and through condensation.

None of the Hytran 'equivalents' encapsulate water like Hytran does. Hytran also seems to cling to the surfaces better, too...I have drained two rearends that had a couple quarts of water and almost no Hytran because they had been sitting outside for a really long time. Both had no rust at all in them because Hytran had been used.
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